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Did Beaufort County Commissioner Frankie Waters vote to make it possible for Illegal Migrants to receive Beaufort County taxpayer assistance?

We, who pay attention, found that at the Realtor Candidate Forum, Frankie Waters had changed his position from marching lock step with the far Left of his Center-Left Coalition, where Illegal Immigrants, residing in Beaufort County, should receive the same benefits as do citizens, as if it has always been the presented policy that BCCC would ferret-out the resident Citizens from the resident Illegals, which is simply not true.

The truth of the matter is that if there ever was an upgrade in BCCC policy, it has yet to be presented to the Beaufort County Commissioners. One needs to always be mindful of Commissioner Waters when he makes pronouncements of disputed facts. His habit with the full truthfulness of his statements exhibits a proclivity most reminiscent of Joe Biden's inability to be aware of, or profess the full truth, when the truth does matter.
Commented: Saturday, October 15th, 2022 @ 1:49 am By: Stan Deatherage
BCCC has students from several other counties around us. Will Beaufort County be paying their tuition and fees? Will their own county be doing it? Or will they have to pay it themselves? Beaufort County taxpayers should not be on the hook for any of this, but it becomes even worse if they are not even Beaufort County citizens. If a BCCC student comes from Hyde or Washington County, for example, who pays for their tuition and fees?

With illegal aliens, FAFSA covers "qualified non-citizens" and that includes those seeking asylum, which includes a huge percentage of illegal aliens coming into this country. They are taught to claim asylum even though very few of them will actually qualify for it if they show up in court. Most of them know that, too, and never show up for court.

Who besides bona fide Beaufort County citizens can get this "free" tuition? The Frankie Waters majority hung the taxpayers out to dry on that one.
Commented: Friday, October 14th, 2022 @ 9:20 pm By: Concerned Taxpayer
Here is a way for illegals to get tuition:

If you are not a citizen of the United States and you don’t hold any of the documents that make you an eligible noncitizen, then you do not qualify for federal student aid. However, you may still qualify for some types of state assistance and funding directly from your school of choice. You should contact the financial aid office at your school to find out if you should complete the FAFSA®.

So that means they can get the tution if the school says so. I think the policy actually says they can get money just not state money or county money. So where does that money come from? Fund raisers and donations. Money that could go to legal students, citizens of our community who will be deprived of the funds..
Commented: Friday, October 14th, 2022 @ 2:46 pm By: Cindi Cutler
Further research shows that FAFSA in fact DOES include quite a few non-citizens, including green card holders, conditional permanent resident, and "asylum seekers", among others. Considering that just about everyone who illegally crosses the border these days tries to claim asylum, and the Mexican human smuggling cartels school them on how to do that, this would mean a great many illegal aliens are in fact eligible. This article shows who is eligible for FAFSA:
withfrank.org
Commented: Tuesday, October 11th, 2022 @ 10:42 am By: borderhawk
"Qualified non-citizens"? Might that include DACA illegal aliens? That question needs to be answered. If it does not do so presently, it would not be surprising for Biden to expand it to include them. Beaufort County needs its own controls on this, NOT federal controls, which may be no control at all.

At the time the county commission voted on this, the information before them indicated it was open to illegal aliens and 5 of them voted for it anyway. That is enough for me that I would never vote for any of those five for any office ever again. I am not sure this after-the-fact proposed policy from the college president adequately protects the taxpayers, and it is not even yet adopted by the board of trustees.
Commented: Tuesday, October 11th, 2022 @ 9:29 am By: Conservative Voter
Borderhawk: Politics /governing is often about advocacy of a true intent to do the work of the People and that is why words spoken in public, for the public, matter greatly.

Also, that is why all business must be done in public with full transparency.

All elected representatives should pause to remember this one truth.
Commented: Tuesday, October 11th, 2022 @ 9:09 am By: Stan Deatherage
FAFSA is supposed to protect against illegal aliens using taxpayer money to attend our community college??? This is a federal program, and federal programs have turned a blind eye to illegal aliens in many respects. What actual checking do they do beyond just the applicant claiming he is a citizen?

A good example of how how stupid or diabolical feds just take illegal aliens' word for things, they do nothing to verify the actual age of someone who claims to be an "unaccompanied minor". They just take their word for it when they claie to be 16 or 17. European countries that have taken steps to verify age have found that over half of those claiming to be "unaccompanied minors" are in fact adults who are lying about their age. In Norway they actually found it was 90% of them lying that way.

Illegal aliens are very prone to buying social security numbers that are not theirs but will pass muster, so they can be very sneaky about these things.

Verification of legal status is critical any time our tax money is involved. I would also note that FAFSA is available to "qualified non-citizens" who at the moment do not seem to be illegal aliens, but who knows with the Biden regime how that might change.
Commented: Tuesday, October 11th, 2022 @ 8:28 am By: borderhawk
Sooo! Mr. Loope stated something was a policy that in fact is at present only a PROPOSED policy, not yet approved by the Board of Trustees. I hope they approve it to keep our tax money from going to illegal aliens.

It looks like the college is doing something the county commissioners should have done. They left the barn door wide open for the money to go to illegal aliens. They did it knowingly and with one of the governing coalition members openly stating he wanted the money to go to illegal aliens.

But there is a bigger issue here. "Make college free" is a national policy objective of the left wing of the Democrat Party. Why in the world is a supposedly Republican majority on our county commission carrying out a national leftwing Democrat policy objective? Beaufort Promise is something AOC or Bernie Sanders could have produced.
Commented: Tuesday, October 11th, 2022 @ 7:29 am By: Concerned Taxpayer
President Loope: That would be a welcome development to be hopefully presented at the next Commissioners' meeting.

Maybe, this will all work out for the best after all; however, this new development may well disappoint some of our more progressive commissioners, who are terrible at simple math, and even more atrocious at projecting future costs ... there is a very large, and demonstrably poor history here in this regard.
Commented: Monday, October 10th, 2022 @ 10:34 pm By: Stan Deatherage
Commissioner Deathrage: I will be pleased to provide the County Commission with our policy and procedure for Beaufort Promise, which specifically state that no Beaufort County funds may be used to fund tuition and fees or cost of attendance for non-citizens of the US. I need to gain approval of the documents by the Board of Trustees first. Also, it would be impossible for a non-citizen to obtain County funds, since doing so requires completion of the FAFSA, which requires identification of citizenship status. —DL
Commented: Monday, October 10th, 2022 @ 7:53 pm By: David R. Loope
What is equally amazing to me is Ed Booth straight out says let anybody from any contry come here to school. It is almost like he is advocating for illegals to come to Beaufort County. Do we really need someone like him on the board? Both an Waters both back increased spending and raising taxes. Frankie sure has changed his tone since he got elected and we need to vote him out of office.
Commented: Monday, October 10th, 2022 @ 10:51 am By: Cindi Cutler
Thanks John Steed. For the necessary enforcement to be effective to insure that no Beaufort County Tax money is ever used, there will have to be a determination by verification which students are here legally, and which are not.

To be clear, and even though it is my determined effort to aid in blocking the unconstitutional, possibly treasonous Biden /Harris Wide Open Border and Resettlement Project, I do not have a problem with Illegals using BCCC; they must, however, pay for that education in full.
Commented: Monday, October 10th, 2022 @ 9:50 am By: Stan Deatherage
Thank you, Mr. Loope for doing something that the Frankie Waters majority on the commission refused to do, and that is adopt a policy against using these taxpayer funds for illegal aliens. The commissioners' interpreted your previous remarks on the subject that you wanted to use the funds for illegal aliens, and they intentionally left that door open to you.

I do have one question, though, and that is since your policy clearly does now exist on paper, what is being done to enforce it? One obvious way, for example. would be to use the e-verify system that is used for employment. I hope it is not an honor system, because that is useless and would make a mere paper policy a joke. Unfortunately, that is what is used on voter registration and we have seen far too many illegal aliens lie and illegally vote in American elections. Please answer that question. Of course, if you choose not to answer, that will be telling us a lot, too.
Commented: Monday, October 10th, 2022 @ 9:37 am By: John Steed
BCCC President Loope,

Thank-you for your Commented reply to fix this matter straight.

There is still one final step to correct this matter, and you have my commissioner's invitation to do so: Please appear before the Beaufort County Commissioners to present those BCCC guidelines to insure that Beaufort County Taxpayer funds will never be used to aid Illegal Migrants /Aliens, here now invading this Constitutional Republic in tremendous and extra record numbers, to ever be rewarded with any semblance of a BC taxpayer funded free education, and submit that to the Beaufort County Commissioners for their full resolve by agreement to continue "Beaufort Promise".

Thank-you in advance for your active ongoing concern in this most important matter to this straight so all parties fully understand it.

At that point, I, and my constituents will know that all is well.
Commented: Monday, October 10th, 2022 @ 9:34 am By: Stan Deatherage
Mr. Loope, the correct legal term for those in our country illegally is ILLEGAL ALIEN. That is the term straight from the United States Code. Your putting it in quotation marks tells me you are a leftie on this issue. A non-citizen is a broader term that includes people who are here legally.

In the video of the commissioners meeting, the ruling coalition states that you wanted to use money for illegal aliens and they passed it with no restriction on that. Booth even said he wanted it used that way. The only ones who disagreed with Booth were Deatherage and Richardson. If you have since restricted it, thank you for doing so, but the commissioner majority clearly had NO intention of protecting our taxpayers that way. The video shows that beyond any doubt.
Commented: Monday, October 10th, 2022 @ 7:17 am By: borderhawk
Dear Commissioner Deatherage:

As president of Beaufort County Community College, I can confirm that no money from Beaufort County is used to pay for tuition and fees via Beaufort Promise or any other purpose for non-citizens ("illegal aliens") from Beaufort County or any other location. I think it's important to ensure the facts are accurate.

Best regards,

Dave Loope
Commented: Sunday, October 9th, 2022 @ 6:45 pm By: David R Loope
The video of the commissioners meeting is clear. The budget does NOT restrict that free tuition money to US citizens. That issue is left up to the community college, and the president of the community college had told the commissioners he wanted to fund tuition for illegal aliens. One of the Democrats on the commission majority openly said he supported that and the rest of the majority did not care. Only conservatives Deatherage and Richardson expressed concern about Beaufort County taxpayers money being used to pay for illegal aliens. Most of the discussion on that issue happened about ten or more minutes into the video. The video shows that five of our commissioners knowingly facilitated use of our county taxpayers money to fund tuition for illegal aliens at the community college. Shame on them.
Commented: Sunday, October 9th, 2022 @ 9:29 pm By: Concerned Taxpayer
Sorry CT. My wife had me doing so much today, I never really finished the post, and it got published too early.

Now, the segmented video has been published of the short budget discussion that should run about 30 minutes.
Commented: Sunday, October 9th, 2022 @ 8:23 pm By: Stan Deatherage
That video is almost two and a half hours long. Where in it is the part about the tuition for illegal aliens at the community college?
Commented: Sunday, October 9th, 2022 @ 6:53 pm By: Concerned Taxpayer
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