Good point, I think the idea I was trying to convey was the basic difference between property and happiness.
"Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" When Jefferson changed "property" to the "pursuit of happiness" he introduced a concept instead of a concrete based right. Pursuit can be interpreted in numerous ways. While happiness may sound better than property (particularly with the issue of slavery as property) it leaves open the expansion of rights to feelings and wishes. Jefferson is my favorite anarchist of the founding fathers, but his eloquence with words (B$) belied his deeply held distrust in government in this case. The laws should protect 'property rights' regardless of ownership. It is just that when we have "public property" we have conferred individual rights to an institution and perhaps the same could be said for corporations. |
I would to agree with you all these many counts except, I'm not sure if the private sector should own any more property than it already does, especially with cronyism and stupidity ruling so supremely right now.
The richest people in America lean Liberal, and their liberal, hypocritical, non capitalist policies do not affect them so much as their policies affect the rest of us. We have laws on the books to protect our public property, and Liberals must follow the laws like the rest of us. |
As usual, I was imprecise in my comment. Fortunately The point that I was trying to make was expressed so well in this link below on this very site. To me it is not a matter of Confederate statues , it is a matter of rule of law. I have gradually evolved into the belief that statues and monuments should not displayed or maintained on public land because of the very fact that opinions can change and history can be revised or reviled from either side. I might even go so far as to say that our government already controls too much land and should not be in a position of ownership, but perhaps be tenants in privately owned and maintained properties. Perhaps the marketplace is the best place to determine the value of statues, bust and other memorials to history. If all such monuments were placed in a pay to see private locations we might get back to limited government. People could vote with their dollars. Unfortunately, that may make me a far ????-? Libertarian, who has veered into the ditch that used to be part of the individualism that this country was founded upon. That is based my belief that it is not a slippery slope but a cliff.
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This is a Southern matter, and you are well qualified to pontificate on all things southern, especially the War of Northern Aggression.
Georgia was terribly burned and ravaged by W.T. Sherman, and North Carolina lost more of their population to the war than any other southern state. You (we) are extra qualified to discuss thee disgusting overprivileged children destroying something that they do not have the base intelligence to understand. Taking down Silent Sam was a full blown party for the stupid, of which Chapel Hill keeps a regular supply, and as many as can be prosecuted should be. |
Since it is a NC matter, I probably should not put my two cents in but my general feeling is that the best way to relieve courts and unburden prosecutors is to reduce the useless laws and prosecute laws that involve property damage, personal injury, abuse of rights etc. Allowing the judicial system to operate at the whim of appointed or election magistrates is fraught with political bias which defeats the intent of the law. I am not a fan of mandatory sentences but determination of guilt should not rest with prosecutors it should rest with the court system. Not bringing a case makes laws a mute subject and adds to the disregard for laws by a significant segment of the population.
A quick check of the purpose of law at numerous sites indicates: (Note minimally acceptable behavior) "The law serves many purposes and functions in society. Four principal purposes and functions are establishing standards, maintaining order, resolving disputes, and protecting liberties and rights. The law is a guidepost for minimally acceptable behavior in society." |
Bobby Tony, Good Point!
Are you not tired of politicians trying to do the popular thing rather than the right thing. |
This may fall under the FBI's Comey's 'no reasonable prosecutor would bring a case' doctrine, which I am sure Joshua Stein the current Attorney General of North Carolina subscribes too. Elections do indeed have consequences.
"North Carolina - The destruction of property crime in North Carolina is written as Willfull and Wanton Injury to Property. If the prosecution has probable cause to believe you willfully and wantonly damaged, injured, or destroyed any property (whether public or private), you could be charged with Willful and Wanton Injury to Property in the North Carolina Criminal Courts. Willful and Wanton Injury to Property is a Class 1 misdemeanor which carries a potential sentence of up to 1 year in jail." www.criminalpropertydamage.com |
Or lack there of (historical knowledge). I am in full agreement Ted.
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Breaking to law should result in jail time regardless of historical knowledge.
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That is the key here. Most cronies and Liberals are more interested in fitting in with the upper crust cocktail crowd than being concerned about anyone's property rights other than their own.
I know that sounds cynical, but still, this statement is far more true than not.