It has been 20 years since Al Gore released his movie "An Inconvenient Truth". which presented the "climate doom" prediction that he said would come from Global Warming. Most of his key claims have simply failed to happen, but he won't admit that.
Even at the time, his errors were obvious. The British High Court ruled shortly after it came out that Gore's movie is "a propaganda film" that contains multiple misstatements of fact, and ordered that it not be shown to school children without disclaimers of those things.
Recently, heavy hitters in the climate alarmist movement have started backing down. First it was Bill Gates, who put a lot of money and time into the movement but earlier this year came out and admitted that the climate doomer stance was wrong. More recently, the UN's International Panel on Climate Change revised their projections and dropped all of the extreme projections that the climate doom theory were based on . Their new projections show a mild inconvenience at worst.
But Gore? He is sticking with his claims, even though now largely proven wrong. This was noted in an article in Newsweek by Dr. Bjorn Lombock, Director of the Copenhagen Consensus Center and former director of the Danish government's environmental assessment agency. It has been followed up with an article by Real Clear Energy.
Meanwhile, a leading climatologist who has disputed the climate alarmist narrative for years, Dr. Judith Curry, has declared that the era of "climate stupidity" (her term for climate alarmism) is over and there is no longer a need for her influential blog "Climate, etc."
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As usual, you are pedaling the climate cult's snake oil, Little Bobbie. The Medieval Warm Period was not 40 million years ago, but just a few hundred years ago, and the Holocene Maximum was only a few thousand years ago. Those warm periods, lasting centuries, were interspersed with cold periods, the most recent of which, known as the Little Ice Age or the Maunder Minimum just ended in the 19th century. The Earth has been in a natural warming cycle since then.
CO2 is a minor greenhouse gas. The most important greenhouse gas is water vapor, which accounts for 90% of the greenhouse effect. Without the greenhouse effect, the Earth would be a cold dead planet. It is the greenhouse effect that keeps the Earth warm enough to support life. Climate records from the ice core samples drilled in the artic and antarctic show that build ups of CO2 in the atmosphere do not precede warming of the climate, they follow it by a hundred years ago. That shows to any rational person that more CO2 is not the cause of the warming but the result of it. |
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You are wrong. C02 is a greenhouse gas. Pure fact. As for the rest of your argument:
Conditions on earth 40 million years ago were indeed very different than today. However, life on earth as we know it has developed during a long period of relative stability. That stability is being altered at an incredibly (in geologic terms) fast pace. The industrial revolution has warmed the earth. The natural heat sinks, forests & oceans, have absorbed all they can. Changes will accelerate. Humans will argue over our response to this phenomenon. My contention is that ignoring it for short term profit is the worst possible response and the most politically risky for any government. The second worst response is to blame Canada. (Ever wonder why these a-holes want to annex Canada and Greenland? Exploitation sure. But in addition, they see what's coming and know it's best not to tell you.) |
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The Earth's climate has had a lot more CO2 in the atmosphere in the past than it does at present, and it has NEVER been a cause of warming. In fact, it is a RESULT of a warmer climate. CO2 rises in sync with temperatures in about a 100 year lag, with CO2 rise FOLLOWING the temperature rise. CO2 is only a minor greenhouse gas. The most important greenhouse gas is water vapor, which accounts for about 90% of the greenhouse effect.
The "doomer" narrative on climate is proven to just be so much hot air by looking at actual climate history. The Medieval Warm Period was warmer than today for centuries and the planet thrived. Or one could go back to the Holocene Maximum when it was much warmer than today for three thousand years, and the heyday of ancient Greek civilization happened during that period None of the dire warnings of the climate alarmists that has passed the date they were supposed to happen, and there have been dozens of them, have EVER come true or even come close. That alone should give the climate doomers zero credibility. Global warming is little more than a conpiracy theory dressed up as science. It is akin to alchemy. |
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CT- it is science. Simple science. Unfortunately, life on earth is a bit more complex than that 3rd grade lesson
By 7th grade we learn that there is a balance associated with the systems that sustain us. Ever heard the phrase "too much of anything isn't good"? It applies to this discussion. It's true, many species of plants can survive in in hotter climates with higher concentrations of C02 in the atmosphere, but life is a balancing act and human intervention has consequences. Burning fossil fuels at the current rate has the whole planet out of whack. It shows up in a variety of ways. Most noticeable are triple digit temps, wildfire (smoke) and changing weather patterns. There are countless more. Look, no one is going to die tomorrow but we as humans are in uncharted territory. Not sure I want to be guided by those offering up 3rd grade science lessons. If MAGA wants to stay relevant, they better get educated on the topic or voters will turn on them. Stupid is just not good policy. |
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Bob, you do understand, do you not, that CO2 is NOT pollution. It is a necessary nutrient for plants, and without it, all plant life on earth would die, followed shortly by all animal life. Furthermore, without the Greenhouse Effect, the Earth would be far too cold to sustain life. That is basic science.
Yes. temps do go up in summer. At least you comprehend that. They go up more if we are in an El Nino cycle or a Super El Nino cycle, as we are now. Conservatives do want protection against pollution, including that generated by wind turbines and solar panels. What we do not believe in is the CO2 global warming conspiracy theory that even the UN's IPCC now seems to be backing off from. Even Bill Gates finally got some common sense and backed off the cliamte doom scare. You can, too, Bob. |
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If conservatives want to stay in power, like all elected officials do, they have to meet certain basic needs of their constituents. Some of those needs are economic such as affordability, jobs etc. but some are environmental. If the government can't deliver clean water, food and air, the public will demand change.
As summer temps soar, air quality degrades and fresh water is in short supply the public will take it out on someone. If MAGA wants to remain relevant, I would think addressing our shared environmental problems would be in their interest. Dig in all you want, but it just shortens the time the rest of us will put up with a party that fails to meet the basic needs of its citizens. Time will tell. |
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There he goes again! Our own resident Chicken Little is squawking that "the sky is falling". Like the fanatics of his ilk, he takes aspects of the El Nino / La Nina cycle as "manmade climate change." The Chicken Littles of this movement totally ignore that every one of the dire predictions of the mad scientists of the climate cult that have passed the date by which they were supposed to happen, and there have been dozens of those, have NOT happened or even come close. The climate scolds are batting ZERO. With that track record, only a fool would believe anything else they spew.
Even that nutty dingbat Greta Thunberg has shifted gears and is now promoting Hamas terrorism instead of the climate charade, but Bob is still stuck on stupid. |
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