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Published: Tuesday, April 21st, 2015 @ 11:04 am
By: Gene Scarborough ( More Entries )

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    Do Conservative Preachers Hate???

    It is filled with some awful stuff. I rate it an "X" for hate and wrath. When religion and politics get mixed we have a problem!

    The "Tax-exempt, Non-profit" status of any church deserves a re-examination by all tax agencies. I fail to see how we can benefit organizations which foment hate and a clear political position. If they pay no taxes, then they need to stay out of politics.

    Deprive such churches of their favored status. If the Baptists had the same control of clergy as does the United Methodist Church and others, we would see it end quickly. Unfortunately, Baptists are "lose as a goose" on their clergy. Anyone who claims to be "called to preach" can step forward / find a church or association which will ordain them / get turned lose without any requirements for education or submission to Denominational control.

    This church and their Pastor are free to express their crazy. David Koresh was the same and he led a bunch of people to their deaths. Jim Jones is another example of religious crazy. The only real solution is for the members to see the light and LEAVE!

    The IRS is most hesitant to confront religious organizations. A few years ago they took a more proactive position for 501(c)3 applicants with more and deeper questions prior to granting such status. The Conservatives raged over that step.

    I think it is too long in coming and most appropriate, myself. This kind of thing led to the assassination of JFK, RFK, MLK. I think we can be more civil in America. It seems we go through certain stages in our society. I watched the JFK killing as a college freshman. It still has grave questions and the statute of limitations on National Security issues so we cannot see all the documents for another decade.

    George W. Bush doubled the time for the limitation as one of his first Executive Orders. It got no press and only tells me he has much to hide from the free press of America. Our only salvation from despotism is the right to know and discuss ALL THE DETAILS of any matter which concerns us and is supported by our taxes.

    John Dean wrote the book. It is "Worse Than Watergate." You can Google it and see for yourself the agenda of Bush I. It came out just before the election for Bush II. I read it and profited much from the behind-the-scenes disclosures.

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Gene Scarborough said:

( April 23rd, 2015 @ 10:08 am )

Good questions, Ted . . .

A "call from God" is out of the biblical story of Abraham when God communicated with him over sacrificing his eldest son to show his love of God. It is straight from the pagan world of human sacrifice at the time. God provided a goat trapped in a vine and virtually said, "I was just testing you Abraham and you don't have to kill your son for my pleasure . . ." Later he had a dream which led him to father in old age the various sons who became the genesis of the Tribes of Israel.

Another "call" came to Moses in the burning bush event. At that point Moses was told to go to the Pharaoh and demand "let my people go."

Both "calls" were supernatural in nature. Moses protested that he could not even speak in public so Aron became the mouthpiece for Moses.

Both Billy Graham and my father were on the farm when they got their "call to preach." Both had a sense that God wanted to use them as Preachers. Billy went to a most conservative school, Wheaton, for seminary. Prior to that he was at a Conservative Bible College in Florida. My father entered Mercer, a more middle-of-the-road education institution started by Baptists in GA. He went from there to Andover-Newton Seminary at Boston because he felt it was the best institute of its kind in America with outstanding faculty in theology.

In Baptist world anyone can be "called." They focus more on the emotional experience and do not require educational credentials to pastor a church, just an invite from the Pulpit Committee. Methodists, on the other hand, and Presbyterians have more control of clergy. They both require a formal education at the college or seminary level which results in a Masters Degree. They ordain their ministers at the larger level with a promise to get them a pulpit. Methodists assign their clergy in their District or Conference / Presbyterians let individual churches call from the ranks of ordained clergy in their Presbytery.

In all this is the mystery of the Holy Spirit at work PLUS the politics of a circle of friends gleaned from who you know and who was your professor at seminary. In other words it is a mix of divine and human relationships and HOPEFULLY the good clergy person seeks to find God's Will for themselves and their churches each time along the journey through life and various churches. . .

Ted McDonald said:

( April 22nd, 2015 @ 3:42 pm )

The term "called to preach" needs definitions. If someone is "called" and not given spiritual gifts of public speaking and leadership, I wonder who is "calling."
The first "call" is the most confusing. Later, a pulpit committee "calls" to lure a good preacher to their congregation.

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