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The nature of mankind and society is to have a dream and live in a reality not always as pretty as the dream --- but with hope of improvement.
The US Founders saw all this in the Old World. There were riches and beauty for a few, but the vast majority barely got by. My Scarborough ancestors came from a castle and town of the name north of London. Nobody who was IN hoped a little wooden ship for the frontier and unknown. As I have visited Europe and twice to England I note how well-manicured the land is because man has been playing with it for way more years than North America. There are river beds carefully lined with rock for pristine water. There are statues and old buildings along with ornate churches BUT I asked myself how these notables really were in life. In America we attend church with fanaticism / in Europe and England not so much~~~and they treat one another a bit better there too! Were they equitable and fair or were they in it for themselves and at the end covered it with paid writers of history to make them look good. The constant temptation in religious practices is to cow to the rich and powerful even if they are crooked as a snake? Some had best be buried with asbestos underwear because God is not fooled and, in reality, man sees clearly in his last days on earth. The reward for non-conformity can be the little church in the corner of town over the big one on Church Street. I have also known people who lived what they preached and we are the better for it. Work for others / work for yourself alone ~~~ it is hard for people to look in the mirror when they are doing well. Some who stayed in the Old World were as good as it gets. Those who came over here and took land from the Native Americans and gave them social diseases and booze were not a dab better when the moral ruler comes out. 
Commented: Sunday, July 19th, 2015 @ 6:04 pm
By: Gene Scarborough
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Just a Sunday PM note: You do not have to hate people to kill them. Ask any Vet.
Also, you do not need to be crazy. Drone strikes happen daily by totally sane people. Back to How Man Messes up--we are trying to create an imaginary world that is out of our control. Preachers pray for heaven on earth. Lots of luck with that.
Commented: Sunday, July 19th, 2015 @ 12:32 pm
By: Ted McDonald
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Gene, It's Sunday, you need to give all that "'hate' speech" a rest.
Commented: Sunday, July 19th, 2015 @ 6:49 am
By: Stan Deatherage
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We are now Minority Ruled by the Supreme Court. I am writing an article about Preachers and Politicians who live in an Imaginary World where Peace and Love make this World a heavenly place.
Commented: Sunday, July 19th, 2015 @ 6:35 am
By: Ted McDonald
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The article is about "how man messes up." The Founding Fathers believed in free speech and a free press with voters --- by their majority --- electing their representatives. If you use this on your statement, Stan, then you have to conclude we are messed up with hate more each day in a nation of "liberty and justice for ALL."
Commented: Sunday, July 19th, 2015 @ 5:29 am
By: Gene Scarborough
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Gene, there exists a state of war in the U.S., and has for some time.
The more you Liberals deny it, the worse it is going to get. Lying about it as Amateur Obama has done, and Ms. Benghazi Clinton has done will not abate this very real situation.
Commented: Sunday, July 19th, 2015 @ 2:17 am
By: Stan Deatherage
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Your article MURDER IN SC showed some passion. Calling this an incident in Chatt is a little subdued.
Commented: Saturday, July 18th, 2015 @ 9:21 pm
By: Ted McDonald
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No further comment required on this absurdity.
GS is doing well debating himself. Over and out
Commented: Saturday, July 18th, 2015 @ 7:46 pm
By: Bobby Tony
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You guys make me laugh!
 We have an incident in Chattanooga and now we are going to play little scared puppet to hunker down and shoot anyone in a robe or head garb. THEY WIN!!! I have been overseas where military guards are in airports with automatic weapons at the ready. The same airport in Amsterdam I walked through had a bomb go off a few years after my passage---therefore, all the guns and vigilance could not stop a crazy person from leaving a briefcase in the corner. I am more than sick over pretended Homeland Security and TSA stuff and when they check them out all the delays and pretense are virtually worthless. Just like guns, only the owners make people dead---for better or worse. Peace, brothers---get off you pretense of super control in a land of supposed freedom . . . 
Commented: Saturday, July 18th, 2015 @ 7:15 pm
By: Gene Scarborough
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I guess I must have missed part of the discussion on this. Who has advocated taking someone's constitutional rights away? We were in agreement until GS veered off in to left field and accused some of us a being oblivious to the rights of the constitution for others.
My suggestion was to have proper armed security at military sites which have been designated by ISIS as targets for terrorism long before the Chattanooga shooting. I find it difficult to equate a terrorist to just being a nonconformist. In what dreamland does someone exist when they cannot call a terrorist a terrorist? Your flaming the word NAZI around does not offer a solution. Buck up and answer your own questions, Socra-Gene. You may find some solutions instead of hurling insults. Terrorism is commonly defined as violent acts (or the threat of violent acts) intended to create fear (terror), perpetrated for an economic,[1] religious, political, or ideological goal, and which deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (e.g., neutral military personnel or civilians
Commented: Saturday, July 18th, 2015 @ 3:52 pm
By: Bobby Tony
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I agree with GS view of an ideal world. It saddens me to say I do not think that world will never come to pass in my life time.
Commented: Saturday, July 18th, 2015 @ 3:43 pm
By: Ted McDonald
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I agree with SD and add that all Military should have carry permits. Why should a military base wait for civilian police to arrive?
Commented: Saturday, July 18th, 2015 @ 3:17 pm
By: Ted McDonald
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The answer is simple: Arm soldiers and arm them well everywhere.
Maybe, that, in some small way, would alarm the doughty Liberals that we are, and have been in a state of war; no matter how much Barack Hussein surrenders, we are still at war with an enemy that hates all things that are not Islamist. It is that simple and should be recognized as such.
Commented: Saturday, July 18th, 2015 @ 11:39 am
By: Stan Deatherage
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The guy in Chattanooga was crazy---so was the white guy in Charleston! Hate is hate / crazy is crazy / most Muslims come here for the same religious freedom as us.
You guys have no clue of Constitutional rights granted to each of us citizens and the lack of armed Nazi guards on every corner to mow down the non-conformists . . . 
Commented: Friday, July 17th, 2015 @ 8:10 pm
By: Gene Scarborough
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However: Might he have felt this way if he had had better job opportunities, provided for in part, by a caring Hussein?
Commented: Friday, July 17th, 2015 @ 5:00 pm
By: Stan Deatherage
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I guess you missed the news in Chattanooga recruitment center. I don't think the shooter was interested in entertaining other ideas.
Commented: Friday, July 17th, 2015 @ 4:56 pm
By: Bobby Tony
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It sounds like you have given up, Bobby Tony, on living together in peace and under law fair to all citizens. If we go back to the wild west pistol packing days, if is my view we have lost more things than we have gained.
One of the great basic concepts of a United States was free speech where we can entertain other ideas and compare them for a better union of BOTH ideas. Jesus was inviting his followers to become fishers of men and the enterprise was the JOY of salvation and PEACE. The basic question I asked first is "How can we honor diversity without killing one another?"
Commented: Friday, July 17th, 2015 @ 3:51 pm
By: Gene Scarborough
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Gene, This is a good review human nature with all its flaws.
The founders of the USA may have come as close to this ideal as possible with the establishment of a government based on individual rights. Thought the implementation may have been flawed the concept of respect for individual liberty is fundamental. Everyone is free to have their own beliefs as long as their actions do not transgress the rights of others. Today we once again face the prospect of respecting a belief system that’s fundamental thesis is the destruction of our own system. Our system if we would chose to follow it has already addressed the differences in our own society. How we address the other issue remains to be seen. Actions do speak louder than words, Trust but verify, but sometimes actions are preceded by strong indications of intent. When a child falls into the deep end of the pool and cannot swim, we do not want the lifeguard to ask how cold is the water. I suspect that teaching the child to swim beforehand is one solution. As though provoking as the Socratic Method is, it does not provide answers. Today we look for leadership in guiding us toward a solution. We expect that from our elected leaders, community leaders and even from the pulpit. One solution I suggest is to remove the Gun Free Zone sign from the Military recruitment centers and arm those best trained to protect the facility. One of the first lessons of combat is that overwhelming fire suppression downrange tends to discourage the aggressor.
Commented: Friday, July 17th, 2015 @ 8:17 am
By: Bobby Tony
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Here is the discussion question: How can we honor the differences between world societies / the differences in our own diverse society of the United States in 2015?
Commented: Friday, July 17th, 2015 @ 6:27 am
By: Gene Scarborough
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