2 sides to what is going on in the Ukraine

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2 sides to what is going on in the Ukraine

Published: Saturday, February 26th, 2022 @ 7:36 am
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From the Armstrong Economics blog

I’m definitely not for war. But for 8 years, since 2014, the Ukrainian government has murdered and bombed Russian people there. Especially the cities (Donetsk and Lugansk) that refused to accept the fascist government that the United States and the European Union imposed on you in 2014 with blood and violence.

Russians in Ukraine have since become a banned ethnic group. The Russian language is banned, Russian books were burned and all Russian channels, movies, etc. were shut down and banned.

Even people who demonstrated then were shot and burned alive. Year after year it only got worse and worse.

A few months ago, Zelensky, who is now the pro-Western president of Ukraine, honored and recognized a famous terrorist / fascist as a Ukrainian hero.

Dmytro Kotsyubaylo is a member of the right-wing sector and the goal of his life, which he says himself is to kill as many Russians as possible.

In several interviews, he has said openly that his caged pet wolf he feeds with bones from Russian-speaking children.

About 20 million people are in eastern and southern Ukraine.

Anonymous

REPLY: I can verify that Dmytro Kotsyubaylo did indeed tell the press that he feeds the bones of Russian-speaking children to his pet wolf. Apparently, he said that with a laugh so it may be a joke that does reflect the attitudes of some and these are the neo-Nazis that Putin referred to. These are also the ultra-right-wing in Ukraine who Putin wants to be brought to justice.

Nevertheless, the Western press is so biased against Putin, this is the real problem. Nobody will even listen to the other side. A friend from Eastern Europe who I have known for more than 10 years and who has lived mostly in the West, is disgusted with the one-sided propaganda and just text me that they cannot wait to return to Serbia which is more pro-Russia.

I can confirm that Zelensky enacted the Ukrainian-only language, whereas Yanukovich wanted both languages to be official.

There are always 2 sides & we must listen to both.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/the-other-side-in-ukraine/

How and why the US Government perpetrated the 2014 coup in Ukraine

Ukraine’s replacing its democratically elected neutralist Government in February 2014, by a rabidly anti-Russian Government, was a violent event, which produced many corpses. It’s presented in The West as having been a ‘revolution’ instead of a coup; but whatever it was, it certainly generated the ‘new Cold War’ (the economic sanctions and NATO buildup on Russia’s borders); and, to know whether it was a coup, or instead a revolution, is to know what actually started the ‘new Cold War’, and why. So, this is historically very important.

https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2018/06/04/how-and-why-the-u-s-government-perpetrated-the-2014-coup-in-ukraine/

And don't forget the Minsk Agreement that for 8 years has not been honored by Ukraine.

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/what-is-the-minsk-agreement-and-whats-its-role-in-the-russia-ukraine-crisis/

None of this justifies the death and destruction that is taking place in the Ukraine, but it does explain the underlying boil that has been allowed to fester until it explodes.

The US need to stop helping to over throwing democratically elected leaders around the world. Past time the US Government concerns itself with our own borders and the invasion that is taking place on the southern border.

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Steven P. Rader said:

( February 26th, 2022 @ 2:32 pm )

The immediate cause of Yanukovych fleeing the country was that there was a vote scheduled in Parliament on his impeachment and removal from office the following day. Yanukovych knew he would lose it, and so rather than facing it like a man, he bailed out and fled to Russia. Impeachment proceedings are an integral part of democracy, not a "coup" or "revolution". He also probably knew that his hardball crackdown on the protesters would likely lead to his indictment. Most of Ukraine's gold reserves left the country about the same time Yanukovych did and haven't been seen since.

As to the violence, that was caused by Yanukovych setting his riot police to viciously attack the protesters. What Trudeau did to the truckers was child's play in comparison. Unlike the truckers, some of the protesters fought back hard, and although most casualties were among protesters, some were among the riot police as well. The worst part was the snipers Yanukovych placed on building who fired into the protesters. The snipers were thought to be from the Russian military but whether serving soldiers or retired is unknown.

Countrygirl1411 said:

( February 26th, 2022 @ 12:35 pm )

Seems from what I can find there was the "Orange Revolutions" the color revolution in 2013. The "Orange Revolution" in 2004 was short and peaceful.
"The 2013 US color revolution in Ukraine that led to the replacement of Ukraine’s democratically elected government with a coalition of neo-Nazi groups covertly supported CIA-funded foundations. Late investigative journalist Robert Parry appears to describe his investigations into the role of the US Embassy; CIA-funded foundations like the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) and the United States Agency for International Development (USAID); George Soros’s Renaissance Foundation and the Dutch Embassy." stuartbramhall.wordpress.com
The color revolution did turn violent from what I have read. Now is any of this true? I don't know I was not there.

Steven P. Rader said:

( February 26th, 2022 @ 11:48 am )

First of all, Poroshenko won an honest election, and when he lost reelection to Zelensky, the current president, he accepted his loss. He is now one of those who has gone and gotten his AK-47 to help defend Kiev. Yanukovych was the pro-Russian president who rigged his reelection, which led to the large "Orange Revolution" peaceful protests.

I have had the opportunity to work with the two Ukrainian lawyers who brought the case that overturned Yanukovych's corrupt reelection in the Ukrainian courts. I hired both of them to make a presentation to Moldovan political party lawyers and brought them to Chisinau, Moldova to make those presentations. I had some interesting discussions with them about their famous case in Ukraine.

Countrygirl1411 said:

( February 26th, 2022 @ 10:42 am )

I did a search on Poroshenko rigged election. I find it interesting that the 2 sites I found it on were Tass and RT. Can anyone give a source of this rigged election that is not from a Russian news agency? I would really like to read it.

Steven P. Rader said:

( February 26th, 2022 @ 9:01 am )

I am appalled. Putin's side is posted on the BO, and like all propaganda it is total BS. "Armstrong Economics" seems to be Putin trolls.

What happened in 2014? A pro-Russian president of Ukraine conducted a rigged election (you know, sorta like 2020 in the US, but worse). The result was ultimately tossed out by Ukrainian courts (as US courts SHOULD have done in 2020) and his side lost the new election. The peaceful demonstrations against the pro-Russian president were dubbed the "Orange Revolution" and the violence the pro-Russian president used against them outdid what Trudeau did against the truckers. It included putting snipers on buildings and shooting people. Those were the corpses from that situation that were referred to. The pro-Russian defeated president ultimately fled to Russia.

Donetsk and Luhansk? Portions of those regions are run by a breakaway Russian puppet regimes manned by Russian mercenaries. and yes there has been fighting from time to time between them and government forces.

If these Russian trolls want to see one sided propaganda, they should watch those government-controlled Russian TV stations. After Russia's last aggression, when they captured the Ukrainian territory of Crimea and set up their puppet regimes in Donetsk and Luhansk, it was well justified to take their propaganda off the Ukrainian airwaves.

"Armstrong Economics" are clearly in Putin's pocket and they are spewing Putin propaganda..

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