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How about an African slaves perspective? One key sentence from my last post was: "maybe from an author not on your preferred reading list?"

I can provide a title or 2 if your interested.
Commented: Friday, May 3rd, 2024 @ 5:38 pm By: Big Bob
Your view point wont stand up to scrutiny. But you're welcome to it.
Commented: Friday, May 3rd, 2024 @ 9:53 pm By: Big Bob
And that is your perspective. There are bits of truth in it, but let's just say it's not the gospel. To expand your knowledge, look outside yourself. The museums are great but maybe you might read a book or two? mAybe from an author not on your preferred reading list?

As for the civil war, I get that you're sensitive about it. As you know, at the end of most wars, the winner writes the history. Right or wrong it's true. from where I sit, the North went easy on the South. General Lee could have found himself hung by his feet and set on fire along with many others that attempted to dissolve the Union. Treason often carries a much higher price.

In my view the Southern perspective should be taught, as a cautionary tale. not celebrated but never forgotten. I mean nobody want to repeat it right?
Commented: Friday, May 3rd, 2024 @ 10:27 am By: Big Bob
I stand by my post. To automatically disqualify is wrong. That's happened for too long in this country.
Commented: Friday, May 3rd, 2024 @ 10:02 am By: Big Bob
Yes. The smart people will figure it out.
Commented: Friday, May 3rd, 2024 @ 9:58 am By: Big Bob
Are you sure? Americans and Britons may agree that both wars happened, but are you sure both sides would see those wars in the same light? When you get away from the where and when, I'm willing to bet interpretations of the events, causes and outcomes begin to diverge.
If one wants to educate themselves in regard to this bit of history, one would need to examine both sides.
And that is exactly what happens in a university history class. Remember education isn't so much about memorizing facts as it is about seeing the world from various points of view. Yeah we all memorize facts, but what separates the educated from the un-educated is the ability to understand the complexity of human endeavors. The nuance.
Its important because it leads to understanding. The more we understand each other, the easer it becomes to coexist in our shared home.
Commented: Thursday, May 2nd, 2024 @ 3:14 pm By: Big Bob
And I will add, automatically disqualifying a person from a job is an "ism". Giving a person a chance to show they can do it is the opposite.
Therefore DEI is the opposite of any "ism" you care to discuss.
Commented: Thursday, May 2nd, 2024 @ 3:00 pm By: Big Bob
I think the point is an employer should not dismiss an application due to an ADA recognized disability. Upon further review an employer can still hire who they think is a best fit.
If you automatically disqualify people you might miss something and it isn't right. No person should be automatically disqualified from a job.
Commented: Thursday, May 2nd, 2024 @ 2:57 pm By: Big Bob
RH- that is an exaggeration and isn't true.
Commented: Thursday, May 2nd, 2024 @ 9:58 am By: Big Bob
JS - you clearly agree with CV. You have a right to be wrong.

For a moment, let's talk objectivity - if you can, please explain what that looks like as it applies to human history. The implication is a right and wrong interpretation of human events.

Sure some facts are somewhat objective.. Example: The American Revolution did indeed happen. However, the how, why, when and significants of, all change depending on who you ask. If you only ask decedents of white Europeans, you only get one perspective.

And that isn't history.
Commented: Thursday, May 2nd, 2024 @ 9:57 am By: Big Bob
Actually van ZANt, he didn't. Why?
He views, (to use his term) 'objective history", through his lens and his experience. Anything outside his experience he deems slanted history or propaganda.

In America, white people do this all time. they often assume their version of "history" is objective (it isn't) and therefore more true and relevant than the historical perspectives of other people and cultures (they aren't).
For that to be true, it would mean we all experience the world in the exact same way. Utter nonsense, right?

CV has a right to his world view. We all do. The question is, should we consider history from more than one point of view.? Cv says no. I say yes. That, in a nut shell is why his explanation is piss poor.

Now if you believe it's possible to have a monopoly on the truth, as CV does, it offers the comfort of a safe space to marginalize a large segment of the population. What gives anyone the right to do that?
Commented: Wednesday, May 1st, 2024 @ 10:58 pm By: Big Bob
CV fails to see that History is told through a lens.

Example: Lets say two people want to learn about the Vietnam war.
One American living in the US
One Vietnamese living in Ho Chi Minh City
Does any one think these two will learn the same history of events and/or lessons from that war?
Same war.
But 2 perspectives.

Is one right, and the other wrong. No
Are both perspectives worth hearing about? Yes.

Clear as a bell.
Commented: Wednesday, May 1st, 2024 @ 2:30 pm By: Big Bob
Said the white man.
Commented: Wednesday, May 1st, 2024 @ 2:21 pm By: Big Bob
Again your take away is has got you twisted all up. You favor only white history and resent any other perspective.

There are many others stories out there. We should be willing to hear them.
Commented: Wednesday, May 1st, 2024 @ 11:55 am By: Big Bob
The white male president in the 1950's admired Robert E Lee. A real shocker.
Commented: Wednesday, May 1st, 2024 @ 9:48 am By: Big Bob
How can you possibly forget that up until the 1950's the hiring preference in this country favored white men? Every idiot knows this to be true. I notice you often twist up the smallest of details to in an effort to justify your own ignorance while completely missing the point.

Unlike salvery - Jim Crow is on us.
Commented: Wednesday, May 1st, 2024 @ 9:42 am By: Big Bob
CV- I have zero respect for you.
go shoot a dog
Commented: Tuesday, April 30th, 2024 @ 9:01 pm By: Big Bob
knock your self out. we may both learn new things
Commented: Tuesday, April 30th, 2024 @ 8:43 pm By: Big Bob
No, it started in 1776 when only white men could get a paid job. Good lord. What a stuipis post.
Commented: Tuesday, April 30th, 2024 @ 8:40 pm By: Big Bob
Right on. Most young people dont even know what real food is.
Commented: Tuesday, April 30th, 2024 @ 8:38 pm By: Big Bob
IDK- the 'grab them by the junk in chief' strikes me as an idiot. How any woman could vote for that guy is beyond me.
Commented: Tuesday, April 30th, 2024 @ 9:04 pm By: Big Bob
JS- your response only re-enforces my argument. When the source of information becomes more important than the information itself, something is wrong.
Commented: Tuesday, April 30th, 2024 @ 2:21 pm By: Big Bob
That's your take away?
You really are a weak individual.
Commented: Tuesday, April 30th, 2024 @ 2:18 pm By: Big Bob
I imagine they would suck it up and do better buy our fellow Americans. We all sin. The trick is ask forgiveness and sin no more. Easy to say, tough to do.
(BTW I'm sure blacks are lining up to defend your post.)

Anywho, Union war criminals? Hmmm. I'll admit they did put a hurt on ya, but hey, it's not like it was unprovoked. I agree that war is best avoided because people do awful stuff, they wouldn't normally do. In that respect, I'm sorry for your loss.

The real crime was reconstruction. By killing Abe, hardcore confederates derailed reconstruction and the nation fell into 100 years of Jim Crow before the country began to unite in the 1950s 60s.
Commented: Tuesday, April 30th, 2024 @ 12:32 pm By: Big Bob
I get that trumps an idiot.
Commented: Tuesday, April 30th, 2024 @ 12:06 pm By: Big Bob
More like an alternative point of view. One you wont get on FOX, Newsmax or space book. I'm sure you think a lot of what I post is BS, but that's because of how entrenched society has become and generally speaking people only want to hear from those that agree with them.

News is no longer news. Network news is about building a brand at the expense of the truth to make money. The truth is complexly marginalized.

Van Zant, you can cling to the notion that some blacks were "free" pre civil war, but but that hardly absolves us from the crimes against humanity perpetuated during that era. By extension, Jim Crow for some, is still the name of the game.
We can't change the past, but if you cant even admit what happened, then you are good with a repeat. That's not OK.
Commented: Tuesday, April 30th, 2024 @ 12:19 pm By: Big Bob
if you cant respect the system when you lose, there is something very wrong.
MAGA - they even shoot their dogs
Commented: Tuesday, April 30th, 2024 @ 10:00 am By: Big Bob
Imagine how a Black student at West Point would feel surrounded by confederate monuments?

If you aren't sure, think a swastika on the national mall. Would we tell Jews to just get over it?
Commented: Tuesday, April 30th, 2024 @ 9:28 am By: Big Bob
Absolutely not. Some posts on this site are absolute BS. I call them out. If Im not sure or there is some truth in the post I let it go.
Commented: Tuesday, April 30th, 2024 @ 9:20 am By: Big Bob
Any excuse in a storm.
MAGA - they will even kill your dog
Commented: Tuesday, April 30th, 2024 @ 9:16 am By: Big Bob
hey, on the internet ,anyone can post anything. I just point out what I know to be false. Not everything in these pages is false but some folks say some crazy stuff!
Commented: Monday, April 29th, 2024 @ 11:42 pm By: Big Bob
Uh-huh
Commented: Monday, April 29th, 2024 @ 5:02 pm By: Big Bob
I think immigration law is far more complex than you think.. just a guess.
Commented: Monday, April 29th, 2024 @ 9:28 am By: Big Bob
The OP is race baiting for sure. What? You think nobody noticed?
Commented: Monday, April 29th, 2024 @ 9:30 am By: Big Bob
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