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One would be hard pressed to find a poorer example of school facilities planning than what we are being fed by this superintendent and school board

JS is correct that the best schools are small schools. JS is wrong about left wing education. Teaching white people fairytales to children will not educate them. No one should be so ashamed of our past as to deny it. Just do better.
Commented: Sunday, December 17th, 2023 @ 7:48 pm By: Big Bob
Firebrand:

Eighty-year-olds may have something to offer called wisdom. What have consolidated schools brought you? 65% of the children in Beaufort County are below the standard reading level and math levels. If the current goes off, they can't make change. Most cannot read a ruler. Many cannot read cursive. How about basic math like 8X9? Let's look at discipline. I know some teachers who have left the profession because of not getting the support they needed. Last year (2021) 8 of 13 Schools in Beaufort County were rated (D) (now 40) by the DPE. I talked to a man running for the school board in Belhaven who has two people on the PTO (Old PTA) committee. No Parent involvement. Another one of us old eighty-year-olds wanted to visit a class his grandchild was attending. He found that was not allowed. There was a time when we had "Grade Mothers" who came and helped students who were falling behind. There are tons of money for underserved children, but I never hear this mentioned at the local school board meeting. We are facing the largest drop-out rate of students in history and building bigger schools that the Government control is not the answer. Ride through some small towns and communities that got smaller when the schools were closed for consolidation.

If bigger and consolidation works, show me.
Buzz Cayton
Commented: Sunday, December 17th, 2023 @ 7:30 pm By: Beaufort Observer Editorial Team
Sure, I have read books, investigated issues that needed fixing, even built them the best functioning website Beaufort County Schools has ever had the distinct pleasure of employing; done quite a plenty to insure that public schools survive and thrive, even though I am but one representative voice out of seven.

But "Firebrand," how does my long involvement with Beaufort County Schools effect my decision making processes as the largest taxing authority in Beaufort County, a position presented as to represent the most important governing processes effecting my constituents, who make up a large contingency of those people that pay for all that is government here in this county?

I take that job very seriously, more than most as has long been my struggle to encounter, and I will continue to do so as long as my constituents wish it of me to act as their representative voice.
Commented: Sunday, December 17th, 2023 @ 6:16 pm By: Stan Deatherage
I believe the children deserve every opportunity. The teachers and principles are working hard to bring up the scores. Have you ever gone to visit the schools?
Commented: Sunday, December 17th, 2023 @ 4:18 pm By: Firebrand
Yes, and it will be incontrovertible if presented accurately.

The 4 schools have been built, the testing trends are not measurably better, and may be in a downward trend if compared on a "apples to apples" basis.

Spending as much money as could be possible on projects poorly considered is NOT going to improve learning in Beaufort County, or North Carolina as a whole of school governing.
Commented: Sunday, December 17th, 2023 @ 4:02 pm By: Stan Deatherage
Stan, Do you have any local data that proves new schools wouldn’t be an incentive to learn?
Commented: Sunday, December 17th, 2023 @ 3:48 pm By: Firebrand
As long as technology can be brought into the classroom, I do not see how a "new" school is necessarily an improvement. There is a school still in use just down the street from my favorite hotel in Vienna that dates from the reign of Emporer Franz Josef I, prior to World War I. In Dubrovnik, Croatia, I have seen a school still in use that dated back from before the Napoleonic Wars. I strongly suspect that the teaching in those buildings was likely superior to most American public schools.

I, myself, have attended classes at the university level in buildings built in the early 20th century, and that did not hurt the quality of the education I received.
Commented: Sunday, December 17th, 2023 @ 3:40 pm By: Steven P. Rader
Firebrand: Did you ever find that local data supporting "Having new schools gives children incentive to learn?"
Commented: Sunday, December 17th, 2023 @ 3:19 pm By: Stan Deatherage
Well I’m sure the little ones won’t be dropped off without help finding their way. I personally went to a school from first through eighth grade. It was nice having an older sibling nearby and teachers that knew not only the children but their families. This is not a liberal view but my opinion.
Commented: Sunday, December 17th, 2023 @ 3:11 pm By: Firebrand
Large schools to warehouse children is a leftwing concept in education. Conservatives have always pushed for neighborhood schools, which are less intimidating to young children and make it easier for parents to participate.

In Beaufort County, we have a leftwing superintendant who is resume building for his next advancement to a bigger system, and that is the only reason we have this monster school project. It is not good for either education or the taxpayer, but it looks good on his resume, and he has too many little puppets on the school board who give him everything he wants.
Commented: Sunday, December 17th, 2023 @ 1:42 pm By: John Steed
Firebrand: You said, "Having new schools gives children incentive to learn."

We have built many schools (4) in Beaufort County over the last 25 years, and renovated all others, which begs me to ask: Do you have any local data to support your bold statement of this essential assessment of need?
Commented: Sunday, December 17th, 2023 @ 12:08 pm By: Stan Deatherage
May I remind you it is the 21 st century. Why are we getting comments about today’s schools from 80 year olds. Having new schools gives children incentive to learn. Also when was the last time any of you went to visit the schools or volunteered?
Commented: Sunday, December 17th, 2023 @ 10:33 am By: Firebrand
Maybe I am not as brave as some people. I cannot imagine my first day at school walking into 1000 kids. Next, how would I find my room? How can I find my way back to the bus? Just thinking.
Commented: Saturday, December 16th, 2023 @ 5:59 pm By: Buzz Cayton
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