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Comments for Muslim / Christian Genocide

This goes back to the history of Mankind. The first Genocide depicted in the Bible is found in Genesis. It is the story of Cane and Abel.

Stan---Is this Southern-speak / Conservative-speak / or Bull-speak??? I really do not follow any logic in your comment over war. I know you expected me to agree or somehow show my ignorance that "we should NOT kill Muslims in masses."

Killing is the same word as genocide. The genocide is like saying "execute" as opposed to "kill the bastard." Stan wants some kind of high ground applied to conservatives advocating war against an "evil nation." America has always wanted some justification to go to war rather than just "we want their oil + heroin poppies."

The current fiasco in the Middle East is hard to justify. 9/11 brought commercial jets into buildings with thousands killed. Questionable government intelligence prevented it from being stopped despite our knowledge it was in the works. The biggest question I still have is WHY WAS THE STANDING ORDER TO INTERCEPT AND FORCE DOWN A JET CLEARLY HIJACKED NOT FOLLOWED??? Such has to be COUNTERMANDED from a high level. That level is George Bush / Dick Cheney.

We attacked Iraq over some pretense of WMD and Sadam Hussain somehow promoting ISIS. At the same time, I am told ALL OUR MILITARY BASES are located on a proposed oil pipeline long drawn in the sand to the Persian Gulf. Surely oil and government would never lie to any of us!!!

The Old Testament and Conservatism seem to go together in lock step. "Eye for eye / tooth for tooth" is its simple basis. The only "justice" is obtained with vengeance. From the days of the 10 Commandments battles rage and people are never happy or peaceful in the Middle East. Perhaps, about 10% of most Conservative Preaching is from the New Testament. They cloak the Jesus Way with a black tarp of get even HATE.

I am a Believer that Jesus is the Christ--the Son of God--who showed us more of what God is really like. The Jews were looking for a new David with a sword, instead they got a Prince of Peace who said, "Forgive you enemies!" that is the secret to solving HATE---you fail to respond in kind. Instead you work on understanding and diplomacy.

John Kennedy recognized the Vietnam problem was really a Civil War. Our Generals and Conservatives had couched it in terms of Communism vs. Democracy. There was no win to it for us an ocean away. The Genocide of him in front of our eyes in Dallas was a great American tragedy before my college freshman eyes! I won't ever forget!

Blood and brains sprayed over a pink dress and flowers will forever be burned into my brain. His wife chased his skull fragments over the back of the car! I studied it carefully at the time --- and into today. A single bullet from a lone assassin is ridiculous for me! I have seen the Zapruder film as his head peeled from front right to back. It took a bunch of people and an immoral level of evil to bring it off.

Conservatives rejoiced / I threw up!!! The exact same HATE is being applied to our President with dark skin today. JESUS HAD DARK SKIN FOLKS!!!

Killing is WRONG according to the 10 Commandments. Add all the "buts" to it you want, God loves LIFE and is the creator of such / Jesus was brutally killed by religious conservatives, BUT God raised him from the dead!

ANY KIND OF GENOCIDE SUCKS, Stan. Take my word. It accomplishes NOTHING!!!
Commented: Thursday, May 7th, 2015 @ 6:15 pm By: Gene Scarborough
The issue is no longer the Liberal's intrinsic need to form some moral equivalency, as Gene rushes to defend liberal positions (not that there's anything wrong with that), but to understand that there is a logic to living and a logic to dying.

Since the Age of Enlightenment, Christians have learned to live more by Christ's example, his teachings, rather than forging Christ's Kingdom by brute force. Now that we are far beyond those early days of the eighteenth century, wars are not fought for religion, excepting the radicalized Muslims, who, obviously, have missed the whole Age of Enlightenment thing.

This is what trips up Liberals, who generally don't do history unless it has been liberalized so they can understand it. They do the moral equivalency commentary because they can conceptualize the 'Howard Zinn talking points' to a point that they can speak it, and then defend it for about 1/2 of a round to some, maybe a few, but are completely unable to take it too far beyond that because of their 'talking points' level of knowledge.

Remarkably, many Liberals are well educated, but instead of learning real information, logic, and the ability to reason, many were indoctrinated by half-ass professors with more of an agenda than any true working knowledge of this real world. They graduate, feel good about themselves, get jobs and then are lost.

That's about the truth of it.
Commented: Thursday, May 7th, 2015 @ 3:34 pm By: Stan Deatherage
Since Jesus encouraged all his followers to be full of grace and love---I will err on the side of such and let God deal with any more details of judgement . . .
Commented: Thursday, May 7th, 2015 @ 1:28 pm By: Gene Scarborough
The good Muslims, and I know that there are multitudes, have a huge battle ahead whether they know it or not. They will be called upon to choose, and they will need to choose wisely.

That also is the truth of it.
Commented: Thursday, May 7th, 2015 @ 8:16 am By: Stan Deatherage
Another note on the subject of "Who gets into Heaven," Tony. This poem got me thinking as we all had to memorize it in the 8th grade of Clarkston High School:

www.poetryfoundation.org

Until this "Muslim going to heaven" thing came up, I had forgotten about Abu ben Adhem, buddy!
Commented: Thursday, May 7th, 2015 @ 6:54 am By: Gene Scarborough
Simple answer: The Bible in the New Testament speaks ONLY to a witness for Christ and his being God's Son. Their view is a witness rather than a theological treatise.

If you look at man's relation to God, there is some dispute over what is the real nature of both Heaven and Hell. The idea of Purgatory is not even there, but a serious thing for Roman Catholics. All is in the category of "things not seen nor proven."

It is my view that when Jesus said, "Love God and your neighbor as yourself" it implies that this is far more important than the NT witness that "Jesus is the ONLY way to Heaven." They lived in such a bad earthly starvation/surf place that their only focus was on The Eternity to Come---as if only they would be there. The Soul on earth knows no "perfect knowledge" --- and then all will be revealed to us.
Commented: Thursday, May 7th, 2015 @ 6:44 am By: Gene Scarborough
Stick with your Conservatism, Stan --- maybe a few of us "liberals" will make it to heaven as well, brother!

Try not to be too surprised when "All God's Children" --- includes us both and a few Muslims thrown in as well, man . . .
Commented: Thursday, May 7th, 2015 @ 5:17 am By: Gene Scarborough
What I write is true. The truth only knows one side, and that is just the truth of it.

I actually don't believe that there is a moral equivalency for everything. That is a Liberal fantasy, and I don't ascribe to those fantasies as everyone knows.
Commented: Wednesday, May 6th, 2015 @ 9:00 pm By: Stan Deatherage
Stan--as usual--makes his stuff in a skewed fashion to promote the end he wants / I took the subject and did it from ALL SIDES . . .
Commented: Wednesday, May 6th, 2015 @ 5:53 pm By: Gene Scarborough
The request was for a former Baptist minister's take on the Muslim genocide of Christians worldwide.
Commented: Wednesday, May 6th, 2015 @ 4:20 pm By: Stan Deatherage
Thanks, Tony --- I did my best to put it into perspective which you obviously GET!
Commented: Tuesday, May 5th, 2015 @ 7:57 pm By: Gene Scarborough
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