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Murphy voted for woke cancel culture

Yes, we do.
Commented: Wednesday, August 30th, 2023 @ 9:31 am By: Big Bob
The important thing here is that 2 RINO politicians, Greg Murphy and Randy Walker, support cancel culture against the South. We all need to remember that when we go into the voting booth in the primary.
Commented: Wednesday, August 30th, 2023 @ 7:39 am By: Bubba
Bobbie reminds me of Biden when he said "we support truth over facts". You see, for the far left "Truth" is about their political narrative, not about what actual happened.

Almost all historic monuments to our Confederate ancestors were privately funded. The taxpayer money is being spent by the far left to try to destroy them. The Arlington Cemetery monument is no exception. The War Between the States was NOT a holocaust.
Commented: Tuesday, August 29th, 2023 @ 4:33 pm By: John Steed
Then we will agree to disagree. Honor your ancestors all you want. That's your right. However, Big Bob will never support taxpayer funding celebrating this, or any holocaust.
Commented: Tuesday, August 29th, 2023 @ 1:56 pm By: Big Bob
Actually, Bolshevik Bob, YOU are like a holocaust denier, denying real history because it does not fit in with your extremist ideology. The holoscaust, historically and factually, did happen. Those who deny it for extremist political reasons are not to be trusted. Similarly, factually and historically there WERE free blacks in the South in the antebellum South and a significant number of them owned slaves themselves. To deny that because of your anti-white racist beliefs, you are similarly not to be trusted.

History is history. Facts are facts. They should not be denied because they are inconvenient to a political narrative or agenda.

Slavery was wrong, as General Lee wrote, that it was "an institution of moral and political evil." But that does not mean that all Southern blacks at the time were slaves. They weren't. And it does not mean that blacks were not slave owners. Some of them were.
Commented: Tuesday, August 29th, 2023 @ 1:18 pm By: John Steed
Attempts to normalize or justify this awful chapter in American history reminds me of the Neo nazi holocaust deniers. it's just sick.
Commented: Tuesday, August 29th, 2023 @ 10:13 am By: Big Bob
In reality, which is all I profess to know, in America's rich history some Black people once did own Black people, and if one considers indentured servitude a form of slavery, a few Black people owned White people.
Commented: Tuesday, August 29th, 2023 @ 9:39 am By: Stan Deatherage
Whether the policy is being advocated by an anonymous internet troll or by a "woke" politician (of either party), removing a reconciliation memorial from a cemetery is a horrible idea. Trampling on an act of reconciliation is actually promoting division. We have to ask ourselves, what are the motives of those promoting division?

Also, shutting down discussion of history (or anything else) is a dangerous thing. Totalitarian tyrants obliterate history and impose their own narrative. Free people engage in free debate and let logic dictate. The true study of history is not a hammer smashing a stone. It is more like reading an interesting mosaic of human stories.

Tearing down a culture in order to impose an authoritarian dream of utopia has been done before. It is a recipe for disaster.
Commented: Tuesday, August 29th, 2023 @ 8:51 am By: Charles Hickman
So, in your little mind articles documenting free blacks in the south owning slaves are "horsesh*t" because they destroy your far left ideological posturing, Bobbie? No, they show your narrative is horsesh*t. Heck, in one of those articles, it even showed that in the old South's largest city, New Orleans, 28% of free blacks owned slaves themselves. That doesn't jibe with your line of anti-white racist hooey, now does it Bobbie?
Commented: Tuesday, August 29th, 2023 @ 7:00 am By: Rino Hunter
Silent? No, I refuse to dignify this load of horse sh*t with a response. However if you need a job, Desatan is hiring. You would fit right in.
Commented: Monday, August 28th, 2023 @ 8:25 pm By: Big Bob
Ole Bobbie has been mighty silent on this subject since he was exposed as not having a clue on what he was talking about.
Commented: Monday, August 28th, 2023 @ 4:42 pm By: Rino Hunter
Here is the second link on free blacks in the South owning slaves themselves:
historycollection.com
See the post below for the other link.
Commented: Sunday, August 27th, 2023 @ 9:23 pm By: John Steed
To teach Bobbie a little real history, he should read the attached articles. There are a couple of duplicates in the lists of black slave owners, but all of the stories show free blacks in the South in economically prominent positions and owning slaves themselves:
listverse.com
Hmmm. I can only post one link so I will have to use a second comment to post the other one.
Commented: Sunday, August 27th, 2023 @ 9:22 pm By: John Steed
One of my Confederate ancestors had a close relationship with a black Confederate comrade in arms. My great grandfather enlisted in 1861 and mustered out after Lee's surrender at Appamatox. My grandfather never talked to him much about the war, but my great uncle Rob, who was named for General Lee, usually took part when a group of Catawba County Confederate veterans got together during the holidays each year, and his memory of the war experiences of those veterans as they talked about them was intriguing.

One Sunday when we were visiting, Uncle Rob got to telling about my great grandfather's POW experience. His company was placed in a poor position in a minor battle in Virginia, was overrun, and most were taken prisoner. When they arrived at the Union POW camp, it was a black Confederate private from Georgia who took the Catawba County boys under his wing to give them guidance on how to survive the brutal conditions in the yankee POW camp. Some months later the Catawba County soldiers and the black soldier from Georgia were all exchanged in the same group and went back to serving in the Army of Northern Virginia under General Lee.

That black private from Georgia was one of three comrades-in-arms from outside Catawba County who my great grandfather corresponded with for decades after the war. The Georgian had been a furniture maker with his own shop before the war, and when he got home after the war, he found Sherman had burned him out on his march to the sea, his home and shop both gone, and his family nowhere to be found. It took him months to finally locate his family, and several years to financially get back on his feet.

One interesting aspect of the POW camp experience is that the yankees offered white Confederate soldiers release if they would sign an oath of allegiance to the Union and enlist in military units stationed in the west to keep the peace with the Indians. Very few of them did so. With black Confederate soliders, whom the yankees called "contrabands", all they had to do was sign an oath of allegiance and they were released. None of the black Confederate soldiers in that POW camp did so. They prefered to stay, even under brutal conditions, with their comrades-in-arms.

The experiences repeated by Uncle Rob were intriguing, and the one I most remember was the account of Pickett's charge from an ancestor who participated in it and his comrades.
Commented: Sunday, August 27th, 2023 @ 6:55 pm By: Steven P. Rader
And we are done.
Commented: Saturday, August 26th, 2023 @ 10:42 am By: Big Bob
Doubling down on ignorance, Bolshevik Bob? Twenty percent of southern blacks prior to the War Between the States were free blacks, and ten percent of those free blacks owned slaves themselves. And in most southern states, free blacks had more rights than free blacks in many northern states due to the racist "Black Codes" enacted by many northern legislatures.

While 80% were slaves who had no control over their lives, the 20% who were free could do what they wanted, and many of them chose to join the Confederate army or navy. Here is Beaufort County, we had two thriving communities of free blacks prior to the war.

The only instance I have read of where slaves fought in battle involved several slaves of General Nathan Bedford Forrest whom he took with him to handle duties around the camp. After a while, they asked him to be allowed to ride into battle, and the General agreed. The slaves fought so well that after the battle, he gave them their freedom, and they immediately enlisted as regular cavalrymen.

You are dumb as a brick, Bobbie. All you know is your stupid far left narrative which is very often just wrong.
Commented: Saturday, August 26th, 2023 @ 10:09 am By: John Steed
Slaves cant consent. To anything. Stop lying.
Commented: Friday, August 25th, 2023 @ 9:12 pm By: Big Bob
Your ignorance knows no bounds, Bolshevik Bob. Twenty percent of southern blacks in 1861 were free blacks, and ten percent of free blacks owned slaves themsellves. Indeed the percentage of slave ownership was somewhat higher among free blacks than among southern whites. In Beaufort County, there were two main communities of free blacks in 1861, Keysville, north of Washington, and a farming area of small farms east of Bath. Some were quite succesful in beuiness such as the free black man who owned a shipyard on the Washington waterfront. You are the one putting black people down by writing them off as all being slaves. They weren't.

A remember an article in Confederate Veteran magazine some years ago profiling one black Confederate hero, Moses Dallas, who prior to the war had been a free black man with a lucrative and challenging occupation as a river pilot guiding ships in and out of the port of Savannah. When the War Between the States came, Dallas enlisted in the Confederate navy and received an officer's commission. He was serving on the ironclad CSS Savannah, flagship of the Savannah squadron, when he and other officers on that warship decided to take the battle to the yankee blackade in an unconventinal way. With his detailed knowledge of the river and estuary, Dallas was one of the principle planners. They picked out a yankee warship on blockade duty, the USS Waterwitch, and romwed out in three small boats, boarding and capturing it in a surprise night time attack. It was the only capture of an enemy warship by boarding from small boats in the whole course of the war. Unfortunately, Dallas, who commanded one of the boats was killed in action before the ship was subdued.

Since regiments were organized on both sides by states rather than national governments, policies on free blacks serveing in the Confederate army varied somewhat by state. One very unfortunate example was in Louisiana, where the free black community organized a regiment for Confederate service when the war broke out but were turned down by the state government. Insulted by that rejection, after the nankees captured New Orleans, they offered their regiment to the north, which accepted their service.

Your narrative is not based on history. It is based on ideoloy, Bolshevik Bob, and it is totally ignorant.
Commented: Friday, August 25th, 2023 @ 6:43 pm By: John Steed
Enslaved people cannot consent to anything. Black confederate solders (if they existed and for the sake of argument lets say yes) were indeed not acting by free will. That argument doesn't hold water.
Neither does the other point you make about how most white southerners were all about the "war between the states", and slavery wasn't a big deal. Total BS. Proof? 100 years of Jim Crow. And that's not history. We lived it and did it.
Some are attempting to do it again by white washing history.
Man up and do the right thing.
Commented: Friday, August 25th, 2023 @ 3:51 pm By: Big Bob
Stan, I know that you serve with Randy Walker and he is your friend, but he badly let us down when he went along with cancel culture against our ancestors. Walker has lost any chance of my vote when he joined the cancel culture mob on this one.

I hope there is a Libertarian or Constitution Party candidate against Murphy, so I will have someone to vote for. Otherwise, I will just skip that race. He lets us down over and voer again. I so wish we still had Walter Jones. He was great.
Commented: Friday, August 25th, 2023 @ 11:00 am By: Rino Hunter
These monuments honor the black Confederate soldiers as well as the white ones, and tearing them down is just wrong. The war pension rolls of southern states show that many black southerners received military pensions for their service in the War Bewteen the States. I remember SCV members making posters in a dispute over a monument showing photos of black Confederate soliders in uniform with the caption "These Black Lives Mattered".

Then there is the famour letter to Lincoln by prominent abolitionist leader Frederick Douglass in September 1861 after the yankees were whipped at First Manassass urging Lincoldn to allow recruitment of black soldiers in the Union army, in which he wrote: "It is now pretty well established, that there are at the present moment many colored men in the Confederate army doing duty not only as cooks, servants and laborers, but as real soldiers, having muskets on their shoulders, and bullets in their pockets, ready to shoot down loyal troops, and do all that soldiers may to destroy the Federal Government and build up that of the traitors and rebels. There were such soldiers at Manassas, and they are probably there still."
Commented: Friday, August 25th, 2023 @ 8:50 am By: John Steed
Most Confederate soldiers were like my great grandfather and my great great grandfather. They did not own slaves and slavery had nothing to do with why they enlisted to defend their country from foreign invasion. Less than ten percent of white southerners owned slaves in 1861.

It was only later in the war that the north decided to try to make slavery their excuse for invading the south. In March 1861, the US Congress, totally controlled by the north as the first seven southern states had already seceded and withdrawn, adopted by the required super majority the Corwin Amendment to the US Constitution, which would have enshrined slavery in the Constitution and made it impossible to abolish without a furhter amendment to the Constitution, and promulgated it to the states for ratification. Lincoln specifically endorsed the Corwin Amendment in his first Inaugural Address. Even after the north decided to say the war was supposedly about slavery, they admitted yet another slave state, West Virginia, to the union to join the four other slave states that adhered to the northern governnment.

Tearing down historic monuments is what Chairman Mao Tse-Tung did in his "cultural revolution" in Communist China. Those who advocate the same thing in the US or Europe can legitimately be called Maoists. That includes you, Bob. It certainly includes BLM.
Commented: Friday, August 25th, 2023 @ 8:30 am By: Steven P. Rader
It's important to remember that the Alington Confederate Memorial was erected as an act of reconciliation. Our present time of cancel culture cares little for that.
Commented: Friday, August 25th, 2023 @ 7:09 am By: Charles Hickman
I will not disparage fellow county commissioner Randy Walker on his vote because Randy Walker has said often that he does not see the need to consider issues that 'do not involve the direct concern of Beaufort County's government.'

While I disagree with Randy Walker's decision to see our role of self-governing from such a limited view, I do understand that as a Beaufort County Commissioner, and I have served with dozens over the decades, not everyone who has ever served in this capacity will ever master that innate essential knowledge that all levels of government (county, state and federal) are interconnected into a complex mosaic whose sum of capabilities greatly effect our every instance of efforts in today's highly politicized American Society.

Congressman Murphy, on the other hand, has that position within the power structure of a current slim Republican majority to effect change, and to retain what is real and necessary, and that is the exact reason why these resolutions are written by those of us that can understand that complexity of governing, and then work diligently for real change so that this Constitutional Republic can have a real fighting chance to survive in these turbulent times.

Congressman Murphy, in this instance, has let us down because the real history of who we are richly matters to me and my constituents, and, furthermore, it should to all of us who are represented by the governing class.
Commented: Friday, August 25th, 2023 @ 7:07 am By: Stan Deatherage
Supporting African Americans makes me neither a Marxist or a troll. Your posts on the subject are tone deaf to those whose American's whose experience is different from yours and mine.

You and I are not bad people because our ancestors did some bad things, however, it is wrong to pretend it never happened. I think most people know that. Time to move forward.
Commented: Thursday, August 24th, 2023 @ 7:22 pm By: Big Bob
So Randy Walker gets a thumbs up from this site's resident Marxist troll, Bolshevik Bob. But Bobbie in spouting a modern far left narrative is ignoring his hero Karl Marx, who wrote of the War Between the States while it was still being fought that "the war is not about slavery, it is a war of economic subjugation by the north against the south." For those of us non-Marxists, British novelist Charles Dickens, one of the UK's contemporary anti-slavery leaders wrote essentially the same thing.
Commented: Thursday, August 24th, 2023 @ 4:37 pm By: Conservative Voter
Maybe he thinks pandering to an insurrection against the US government to preserve a way of life that included owning people as one owns property should not be celebrated at the taxpayers expense? Especially when some of those taxpayers are direct decedents of slaves. Just sayin
Commented: Thursday, August 24th, 2023 @ 3:38 pm By: Big Bob
It was a shocker that Randy Walker goes along with cancel culture against the South. He is from a long time Southern family, and even transplanted yankee John Rebholz voted in favor of saving our heritage. Randy may learn that cancel culture can work two ways and voters who care about our Southern heritage may just decide to cancel him in his next election. Why did he make such a stupid vote? Was he pandering to BLM? Not many of them vote in Beaufort County elections, and probably none at all in GOP primaries.
Commented: Thursday, August 24th, 2023 @ 2:40 pm By: Bubba
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