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NCSEN: The Battle of RTP (Post-Game)
Publisher's note: Brant Clifton keeps North Carolina's top political race on the front burner in his "bare knuckles" Conservative online publication known as The Daily Haymaker.
I had to convince myself repeatedly that this was NOT a Saturday Night Live skit. The drive-bys subjected us AND the candidates with some moronic, leftist questions. The candidates hit us with a lot of consultant-crafted soundbites. On many occasions, they didn't even actually answer the question. And, as tends to happen when politicians open their mouths, we had some truth-stretching.
The verdict. For regular readers of this site, you know that we're not enthused by either of the two major party candidates. Though, there was a clear on-camera difference between Thom and Kay. Tillis, the Republican — putting aside his goofy facial expression when he was introduced — appeared calm, cool and well-prepared. Senator Hagan, on the other hand, clearly lost her cool and spent a lot of time on the defensive. For those introduced to these two for the first time tonight, Tillis wiped up the floor with Hagan. She showed her true, screaming feminist colors. For those of us who know Thom a little better, we spent a good portion of an hour shaking our heads in disbelief. In the end, I think it is safe to say that Tillis helped himself tonight, while Hagan experienced a setback.
Contraceptives and Teacher recruitment. The debate spent a wee bit too much time on two subjects that the US Senate has no business getting involved in. I heard WAY more about birth control than I really care to. Hagan blasted Tillis for supporting The Hobby Lobby court decision and declared him bent on depriving women of birth control pills. Tillis — in one of his better moves — scolded her for confusing taxpayer support with access. Speaker Thom spoke in favor of transferring birth control pills to over-the-counter status — thereby reducing their cost and increasing the supply and availability. He blasted Hagan for being in the back pocket of big pharmaceuticals. (I can't believe he really went there. Seriously? Have you seen the Tillis campaign financials? Have you been reading this site?)
One of the weirdest moments of the evening came when moderator Norah O'Donnell asked the candidates about public school teacher recruitment. Really? Is this a school board race, or a US Senate race?
BarryO in a dress. Kay Hagan cited her selection by National Journal as 'the most moderate senator.' kayandbarryShe then descended into screeching, demagogic rants that evoked memories of Barry's 2012 campaign stump speeches or California's Barbara Boxer on any given day. Hagan badmouthed 'tax cuts for the rich' and trumpeted 'fighting for the middle class.' It's not the best way to go when running for reelection in a state Obama lost in 2012 and filled with people who have lost their jobs and livelihoods thanks to Obama-nomics. If you're going to spin that you're 'moderate,' try saying something that sounds remotely moderate.
Thom Tillis, anti-Establishment. This part of the program was one of the hardest to swallow. Speaker Thom talked about working across the aisle and winning the confidence of his House colleagues so that they would later elect him speaker. Tillis got to the House by primarying and knocking off John Rhodes, a conservative GOP maverick, who regularly railed publicly against corruption in state government. Tillis was recruited by the notorious Charlotte "uptown crowd" who were angry at Rhodes for talking terrible about their friend, House speaker Jim Black, and not bringing home more of other people's money.
Tillis got elected Republican whip in his second term. His elevation and promotion was based, largely in part , on his connections with the big-money Chroveamber crowd in uptown Charlotte. From January 2011 to the present, Tillis called the shots about what did and did not happen in the NC House — hardly anti-establishment.
Tillis was recruited to run for the Senate by Karl Rove. His campaign report is loaded with cash from sitting senators and congressmen, DC-based lobbyists, and long-time GOP establishment donors from across the nation. Tillis has been attending, for months, fundraisers at the offices of DC lobbyists, the National Republican Senatorial Committee, and The Capitol Hill Club. So, blasting ol' Kay for being too close to the DC establishment is, um, a bit much.
Minimum Wage. Norah O'Donnell targeted Tillis by asking him if he thought a minimum wage of $7.25 in North Carolina was enough to live on. In a good move, Tillis derided the left for seeking a minimum wage society instead of getting the government out of the way and pushing for universal prosperity. Hagan twisted, to her advantage, an earlier comment from Tillis about people in western North Carolina not deserving the same wage as workers in Boston. I hate to lecture Madam senator. She spent a good chunk of her time telling us how smart she is, and how she used to be a bank vice president. During her time at the bank, I would have thought she might have learned something about the differences in cost of living in various regions of the country and world.
Tillis said minimum wage decisions need to be made at the local and state level. I would have preferred hearing him assign that duty to the free market itself.
The environment. Tillis blasted Hagan for supporting costly EPA regulations. Never mind that he backed alternative energy mandates in 2007 that jacked up utility bills. He even moved to kill an effort to repeal those mandates this past legislative session. *I guess some regulations that jack up costs and kill jobs — in the name of "saving the planet" — are OK.*
Moderate Rebels. How do you behave moderately, while, at the same time, being a rebel? Anyway, Hagan said she favored "weaponizing" moderate rebels in Syria. Whomever that is.
Amnesty. Tillis reassured his audience that he is no fan of amnesty for illegal aliens. He criticized Hagan for voting for the so-called "Gang of Eight" immigration reform bill. Hagan responded by saying it was not about amnesty and more about border security. She pointed out that the bill was sponsored by Republicans Marco Rubio, John McCain (who endorsed Tillis), and South Carolina's Lindsey Graham (who also endorsed Tillis). Hagan blasted Tillis for not having "a plan." The subjects brought up HERE conveniently didn't come up during the debate.
ObamaCare. Tillis went after Hagan for saying repeatedly that you could keep your health plan, if you wanted to, under ObamaCare. Hagan responded by point out that she — upon realizing the,um, dishonesty of insurance companies — pushed through a law forcing insurance companies to make people's health plans permanent. So, thanks to her, you could keep your plan.
Tillis also mentioned the roughly 475,000 North Carolinians who did not apparently have that option. Before you get too excited about the GOP nominee being an anti-ObamaCare warrior, remember that he pushed through the House legislation to establish an ObamaCare-inspired state health exchange.
Go Back
I had to convince myself repeatedly that this was NOT a Saturday Night Live skit. The drive-bys subjected us AND the candidates with some moronic, leftist questions. The candidates hit us with a lot of consultant-crafted soundbites. On many occasions, they didn't even actually answer the question. And, as tends to happen when politicians open their mouths, we had some truth-stretching.
The verdict. For regular readers of this site, you know that we're not enthused by either of the two major party candidates. Though, there was a clear on-camera difference between Thom and Kay. Tillis, the Republican — putting aside his goofy facial expression when he was introduced — appeared calm, cool and well-prepared. Senator Hagan, on the other hand, clearly lost her cool and spent a lot of time on the defensive. For those introduced to these two for the first time tonight, Tillis wiped up the floor with Hagan. She showed her true, screaming feminist colors. For those of us who know Thom a little better, we spent a good portion of an hour shaking our heads in disbelief. In the end, I think it is safe to say that Tillis helped himself tonight, while Hagan experienced a setback.
Contraceptives and Teacher recruitment. The debate spent a wee bit too much time on two subjects that the US Senate has no business getting involved in. I heard WAY more about birth control than I really care to. Hagan blasted Tillis for supporting The Hobby Lobby court decision and declared him bent on depriving women of birth control pills. Tillis — in one of his better moves — scolded her for confusing taxpayer support with access. Speaker Thom spoke in favor of transferring birth control pills to over-the-counter status — thereby reducing their cost and increasing the supply and availability. He blasted Hagan for being in the back pocket of big pharmaceuticals. (I can't believe he really went there. Seriously? Have you seen the Tillis campaign financials? Have you been reading this site?)
One of the weirdest moments of the evening came when moderator Norah O'Donnell asked the candidates about public school teacher recruitment. Really? Is this a school board race, or a US Senate race?
BarryO in a dress. Kay Hagan cited her selection by National Journal as 'the most moderate senator.' kayandbarryShe then descended into screeching, demagogic rants that evoked memories of Barry's 2012 campaign stump speeches or California's Barbara Boxer on any given day. Hagan badmouthed 'tax cuts for the rich' and trumpeted 'fighting for the middle class.' It's not the best way to go when running for reelection in a state Obama lost in 2012 and filled with people who have lost their jobs and livelihoods thanks to Obama-nomics. If you're going to spin that you're 'moderate,' try saying something that sounds remotely moderate.
Thom Tillis, anti-Establishment. This part of the program was one of the hardest to swallow. Speaker Thom talked about working across the aisle and winning the confidence of his House colleagues so that they would later elect him speaker. Tillis got to the House by primarying and knocking off John Rhodes, a conservative GOP maverick, who regularly railed publicly against corruption in state government. Tillis was recruited by the notorious Charlotte "uptown crowd" who were angry at Rhodes for talking terrible about their friend, House speaker Jim Black, and not bringing home more of other people's money.
Tillis got elected Republican whip in his second term. His elevation and promotion was based, largely in part , on his connections with the big-money Chroveamber crowd in uptown Charlotte. From January 2011 to the present, Tillis called the shots about what did and did not happen in the NC House — hardly anti-establishment.
Tillis was recruited to run for the Senate by Karl Rove. His campaign report is loaded with cash from sitting senators and congressmen, DC-based lobbyists, and long-time GOP establishment donors from across the nation. Tillis has been attending, for months, fundraisers at the offices of DC lobbyists, the National Republican Senatorial Committee, and The Capitol Hill Club. So, blasting ol' Kay for being too close to the DC establishment is, um, a bit much.
Minimum Wage. Norah O'Donnell targeted Tillis by asking him if he thought a minimum wage of $7.25 in North Carolina was enough to live on. In a good move, Tillis derided the left for seeking a minimum wage society instead of getting the government out of the way and pushing for universal prosperity. Hagan twisted, to her advantage, an earlier comment from Tillis about people in western North Carolina not deserving the same wage as workers in Boston. I hate to lecture Madam senator. She spent a good chunk of her time telling us how smart she is, and how she used to be a bank vice president. During her time at the bank, I would have thought she might have learned something about the differences in cost of living in various regions of the country and world.
Tillis said minimum wage decisions need to be made at the local and state level. I would have preferred hearing him assign that duty to the free market itself.
The environment. Tillis blasted Hagan for supporting costly EPA regulations. Never mind that he backed alternative energy mandates in 2007 that jacked up utility bills. He even moved to kill an effort to repeal those mandates this past legislative session. *I guess some regulations that jack up costs and kill jobs — in the name of "saving the planet" — are OK.*
Moderate Rebels. How do you behave moderately, while, at the same time, being a rebel? Anyway, Hagan said she favored "weaponizing" moderate rebels in Syria. Whomever that is.
Amnesty. Tillis reassured his audience that he is no fan of amnesty for illegal aliens. He criticized Hagan for voting for the so-called "Gang of Eight" immigration reform bill. Hagan responded by saying it was not about amnesty and more about border security. She pointed out that the bill was sponsored by Republicans Marco Rubio, John McCain (who endorsed Tillis), and South Carolina's Lindsey Graham (who also endorsed Tillis). Hagan blasted Tillis for not having "a plan." The subjects brought up HERE conveniently didn't come up during the debate.
ObamaCare. Tillis went after Hagan for saying repeatedly that you could keep your health plan, if you wanted to, under ObamaCare. Hagan responded by point out that she — upon realizing the,um, dishonesty of insurance companies — pushed through a law forcing insurance companies to make people's health plans permanent. So, thanks to her, you could keep your plan.
Tillis also mentioned the roughly 475,000 North Carolinians who did not apparently have that option. Before you get too excited about the GOP nominee being an anti-ObamaCare warrior, remember that he pushed through the House legislation to establish an ObamaCare-inspired state health exchange.
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Maybe I was raised to be a "gentleman of intelligent discourse" over a constant bar fight with every political ad and candidate!
Sorry about that! 
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Hatefulness is a poor descriptor for a man that speaks the truth as he knows it to the core.
Your previous comment dances around the issue, while I go straight to the core. Divorce yourself from your continued understanding that politics should be like it use to be. America has changed, and so has the intelligence level of their politicians. America can not continue on its present course. There are far smarter politicians waiting in the wings, and all we need for them to step to the fore is a smarter public, which will take some broad work. |
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 More hatefulness, Stan. I don't think it is helping to make anything better.What is the problem with admitting National Healthcare passed years ago---now get on with life and tweak it into a more workable system. We are about the only Industrialized country without such healthcare. We are a country obsessed with profit over good deeds. In other words, if I don't make money doing it, then it won't get done. Maybe it's because I was born in 1946, but I DO remember when Congress and the President worked together to accomplish much. For example, the Interstate Highway System put together during the Eisenhower Administration. It is now deteriorating because we love war more than infrastructure. The building was not without some graft and greed by landowners and contractors. It cost, at the time, a million dollars a mile. I was in GA at the time and know politicians like Dick Russell and Ernest Vandiver and Herman Talmadge were active players for personal gain. We have had bid rigging scandals with the NC DOT and government~~~but should we cease highway maintenance and building over "imperfections of personality." Lighten up, bro, with the use of "liberal" or "conservative." It serves NO PURPOSE beyond angering people and distorting any candidate's real wish to be constructive. 
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Back in 1995, I learned first hand about bi-partisanship: It's called "Do it our way."
As long as the public elects politicians that only care about getting re-elected, they will only cater to their base vote. Furthermore, when that base vote is stupid, their politicians will vote stupid, and then the smart politicians - the one's that don't care about re-election - get the signal: No compromise from us. Stupid voting base = stupid politicians = stupid decisions = the only rational outcome: No compromise from us. ObamaCare is a great example of such. My opinion on the this conundrum is the only real answer: The people that vote will have to get smarter. As this world gets more complicated, the mean average of the American People is greater stupidity. This American Republic will not continue to exist if that intelligence mean does not get smarter real fast. The dimwit Harry Reid is the "canary in the coal mine". The equally intelligent Kay Hagan put him in his position as Senate Majority Leader. She represents her voting base extremely well. |
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Strong words, brother Stan!!! Is there any ground for compromise and working together for the good of the voters?? The Beaufort Commissioners are proving compromise and wise decisions are impossible with a level of hate that exists every time they meet. I vote for less hate / more love / more progress than the last 6 years. As we approach 9/11, I believe we should celebrate Osamma ben Laden brought to Justice over how many a few crazy religious zealots were able to destroy with hate. That event is "proof positive" that a crazy finger pushing the Atomic Button could blast us back into the caves and Ice Age! |
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I am a notable Republican that will never defend Thom Thillis; however, Reid is an idiot and he is scrupulous beyond measure, somewhat at the historic optimum level of Amatueur Obama and Lawless AG Eric Holder. Kay Hagan only fools Liberals, or those that can't think their way out of a wet paper bag. She votes for these men, and she votes for their policies, and, ultimately, allows their lawless lies and deceptions to continue to great deleterious effect upon the American people.
As far as the North Carolina Education system, we wise insiders understand it as complete FUBAR. Remember this one truth, too many Liberals in the kitchen spoil the brew, and it is well past spoilt in the NC DPI. |
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 .25-cent words to say, "I hate Democrats!" it seems.Is she really that bad ~~~ or is Tillis and his tight pockets on NC Education a preferred choice??? Just quit the "guilt by association" BS and look at the person and whether they try to do their best for their constituents. That will be the basis of my choices in November ~~~ as an Independent thinker/voter. |
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The problem; however, with Kay Hagan is that she is stupid and she has no integrity, and North Carolina voters show a rather dull intellect in continuing to elect a senator with such a terrible voting record, most notably is her long time support of the vacuous Harry Reid as Senate Majority leader.
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What is a body to do = vote for Kay Hagan and let's let something start happening in Washington besides hate and refusal to cooperate. If a log jam threatened the waters of the Tar River and therefore our aquatic system of the Sound, the smart person would blow the jam away before it raised the river level all the way up to Rocky Mount and every municipality is inundated! |
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I must admit this one truth, I have a very keen eye for politicians, and my subjective opinion can be a bit demanding. I suppose I just know too much.
In the North Carolina Senate race, we elect the highest ranking politician in the state outside of the governor. Here, I just expect much more in quality than what we have here in both candidates. While Thom Tillis is no where near the Republican's best candidate, Kay Hagan has two terrible obstacles to overcome: 1) She is egregiously liberal, and 2) she is no 'deep-thinker', not by a long stretch, and the first demand of any politician is that they have the intellectual wherewithal to do the job. These are too critical times to send a intellectually challenged individual to Washington to do a intellectually sufficient's job. With Thom, he is an Establishment Republican, and only grass-roots Republicans know what it means to be a real Republican. What is a body to do? |
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