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Beaufort County Schools policy gives loopholes to still teach it

W. It really is. In my job people often come to me with issues. Sometimes I can help them but sometimes I have to steer them in another direction because like all businesses, we have a process. I always try to be kind and get them to the right person but some, a few, struggle and demand I do what they want.
Those people end up disappointed but thete is a process to resolving all issues. Maybe the school board member wasn’t the right person. I’m sorry if you felt disrespected.
Commented: Monday, December 4th, 2023 @ 7:22 pm By: Big Bob
BB: my school board issue was almost 3 decades ago, so that one doesnt much matter now. However i did point out the slack lazy attitude of a school board member who didnt think he should be bothered. I bring that up because I think that attitude is a lingering, on-going human nature problem. My hopes are tht;local elected people might see themselves and change their ways.
Commented: Monday, December 4th, 2023 @ 3:15 pm By: Washingtonian
Washingtonian: What was your issue?
Commented: Monday, December 4th, 2023 @ 2:01 pm By: Big Bob
Washingtonian: Wow, I probably had to deal with that idiot at some point decades back.

I have been a county commissioner for 23 years, and as our employment roles grow ever larger, I have far less staff help now than when we had 30% less employees.

I subscribe to the fact that the county's administration leans Left and are governed by the Center - Left Coalition, a collection of nominal Republicans, and, or RINOs and 2 Democratic Socialists.

As one of two Original Thought Conservatives, who are tops in Beaufort County as problem solvers, we remain extremely frustrated; however, elections have consequences, and we are ready to pour it on for any possible change to the contrary of the status quo ... and, thankfully, we are gaining friends, whose eyes are opening wide to what is real.
Commented: Monday, December 4th, 2023 @ 1:23 pm By: Stan Deatherage
A couple of decades back, I was at a school board meeting because I had an issue I wanted to address. At the break I spoke with one of the members. He looked at me and said: Look, we board members dont have time for all this, and cant know about everything. We have a life outside of this. We have a job, we have a family and children of our own to deal with.
THAT's WHY we have a STAFF!
I thought to myself, well why are you even here?
Personally, I think the staff have their own clique going on, and work to make sure that the board is kept in the dark about most issues. A Board member MUST be diligent. He/She MUST seek out knowledge!! Dont take the lazy way out, because that is how we end up in the mess we are in.
Commented: Monday, December 4th, 2023 @ 12:23 pm By: Washingtonian
Man that was like pulling teeth. 2023 and you had to think about it.

Now consider why that was so hard? Consider how those same thoughts and feelings influence your daily interactions with the other members of planet earth. Education, housing, land use, banking & job opportunities, all influenced and all effected.

Not by just you. All of us. all I'm asking is for you to think about it.
Commented: Sunday, December 3rd, 2023 @ 12:25 pm By: Big Bob
Washingtonian: Thanks for that reminder. I was busy with so many other issues, like raising 4 children and learning how to be a good county commissioner; that one got by me, got past The Hood too.

Now, look what "WOKE" has wrought - unbridled stupidity.
Commented: Sunday, December 3rd, 2023 @ 12:00 pm By: Stan Deatherage
Does anyone here remember when the bust of George Washington was the logo and symbol for Washington High School? Seems logical doesnt it. It's Logical for the school in the City of Washington,NC, which claims to be the first named after President Washington. But,it ended in the early 90s when the WOKE agenda came to town. This was b4 'woke' was known, & b4 it was mainstream to tear down statues and rename all the schools. Yes, I do believe that Washington High School was the first in the entire nation to fall to that Woke disease.

It seems it was the idea of a senior class advisor. Who convinced a small group that they should decide for the entire school from here on after to be rid of George Washington in favor of something "less outdated." So they chose a shield, a coat of armor, embedding some ancient Greek symbols, such as Mercury's wing feet, aladdins lamp and the comedy and tragedy mask. So relevant. NOT!

If they could remove George so easily, why cant we bring George back?
Commented: Sunday, December 3rd, 2023 @ 11:38 am By: Washingtonian
CV: Exactly, CRT and DEI is a grouping of ideals to lay the foundation to destroy the fabric of this Constitutional Republic, not unlike the Church of the New Green Deal.

At its core, it is the unlocked front door to where stupidity lives, and some of us, who can actually think for themselves, well understand this one fluent maxim: Stupid will get you killed.

Me and my constituents want NO part of stupid, not in these prescient times when the writing is so clearly written on the collective wall of our future, SHOUTING: Which path leads where, and how to avoid the pitfalls where lethal danger lurks, biding its time to take and take and take.
Commented: Sunday, December 3rd, 2023 @ 9:41 am By: Stan Deatherage
It is tiring to watch Bigot Bob, an anti-white racist, try to deflect from this serious topic with his racist prattle. The issue here is raciallly divisive garbage, CRT and DEI, that has no place in our schools.
Commented: Sunday, December 3rd, 2023 @ 9:11 am By: Conservative Voter
Big Bob: NO, but I do think of you as a virtue signaling first-rate fool, so does that even me out now/
Commented: Sunday, December 3rd, 2023 @ 8:38 am By: Stan Deatherage
I’ll give you a hint. It’s a one word answer.
Commented: Sunday, December 3rd, 2023 @ 7:52 am By: Big Bob
Big Bob: Is that one of your favorite words?

Why am I posing this as a question; Big Bob, history shows here on Eastern NC NOW that this may well be one of your favorite words.

I ask again why does your Leftist mind keep you preoccupied on Race? Do you believe that this endears you to anyone with a full working brain?
Commented: Saturday, December 2nd, 2023 @ 10:31 pm By: Stan Deatherage
Which is it. Ok or not ok to say the n word? Simple question
Commented: Saturday, December 2nd, 2023 @ 6:36 pm By: Big Bob
Big Bob: I am not consumed with Race as you are, so DO NOT stupidly conflate all of your insipid issues with Race (in particular your Racial conflict of choice being Blacks v Whites), and then lay them at my feet as if I am a party to this madness. My elevated ability to know what is destroying this Republic; most notably, the low intellect of pathetic Leftists seeking to divide everyone, in particular by Race, into categories that Leftists can easily control by whatever ignorant means necessary, allows me the good conscience to patently discard the sophistry of abject Leftists such as yourself.

I am not alone. There are many other patriotic Americans are well of the fact that: Leftists are a trifling sort of fools, and their non patriotic tendencies, and their bold, baffling ignorance of what is real makes them no more than a nuisance going forward.






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Commented: Saturday, December 2nd, 2023 @ 3:41 pm By: Stan Deatherage
Stan are you saying we should be able to say the N word? You can’t even support that bit of progress? Wow

Victoria-where were you in 1964? Standing up then?
Commented: Saturday, December 2nd, 2023 @ 2:49 pm By: Big Bob
Teaching racial division like CRT and DEI is just promoting a new kind of segregation. We need school board members with the backbone to put a stop to it.
Commented: Saturday, December 2nd, 2023 @ 12:49 pm By: Victoria
Big Bob: You have to know by now that one man's unfocused, ill considered "progress" to appease the pear pressure of the Non Patriot Left is just another man's understanding of what constitutes the manifestation of pure, unbridled stupidity spewed as if it would be real, which it currently is not.

Big Bob, your Leftist fixation on Race and support Trans issues, women's "reproductive health" (a total Leftist misnomer), and whatever else is topical for Leftist fools is truly blowing out whatever brain cells you might have once had.
Commented: Saturday, December 2nd, 2023 @ 10:07 am By: Stan Deatherage
Its called progress Stan. 60 years ago white people tossed around the N word. 50 years ago a landlord could rent to whites only and restaurants deny service to people of color. 40 years ago we shut down the sh*ty schools white people built for African Americans and integrated. Lacking generational wealth, its a long hard climb but the promise of America is coming true. Nothing you can do to stop it, as good always wins in the end.
Commented: Saturday, December 2nd, 2023 @ 9:59 am By: Big Bob
Why focus so much on the bureaucrats? They are the hired help. The real key is the elected school board members, who are the ones with the power to stop CRT, even if they have to fight DPI to do it. Are they up to the task? If not, it is time to replace them with those who are. Supposedly, the school board has a Republican majority, but how many of those are really RINOs?

That black British woman in the video sure tells it like it is on CRT and on BLM, too.
Commented: Saturday, December 2nd, 2023 @ 7:24 am By: Rino Hunter
Bubba, it is quite common for there to be credible arguments on both sides of a legal question. In government, policy differences and issues of power and control between various levels of government are often dealt with as legal issues, and can often be argued from either side. That is why it is important in a government office to have attorneys who are on the same policy wavelength as the elected decision makers.

I served as General Counsel of the largest department of NC state government in the Jim Martin administration. At the end of administration, with an incoming Democrat administration, the new Democrat governor removed every departmental general counsel in state government, because we were all Republicans, even though in most cases they did not have a new appointee ready to fill the offices.

Another example is the relationship between attorneys for the Martin administration and the Democrat Attorney General. We often took different legal positions based on policy differences. Indeed, Governor Martin's Chief Counsel sent out a memo stressing that no agency in the administration should request an Attorney General opinion on any significant matter of policy but should issue our own departmental legal opinions instead. Three times, when lower agencies within our department unilaterally submitted something for an AG opinion, I had to write departmental opinions taking the opposite legal position. All three times those conflicting legal opinions were reviewed by higher authorities, and each time our departmental legal opinion prevailed over the AG opinion.

There are lots of conflicts in the law, caused by such things as differing statutes, differing opinions of the meaning of statutes, interpretations of appellate court decisions, and the like. Sometimes the law is very clear cut with no wiggle room, but very often, statutes and court decisions have have widely varying interpretations.

When it comes to public schools, DPI wants to control as much as they can, and sometimes is overbearing in its overreach. I remember 40 years ago, when a fellow member of the old Pitt-Beaufort Conservative Union, who was a conservative Democrat and served as school board attorney in Pitt County commented at one of our meetings about how the best way to deal with DPI's demands that local schools do or not do something was to challenge their legal authority to make the demand. Very often they did not have the authority they asserted, and they backed down. Indeed, quite often they did not even respond to his challenge to their authority and the local schools just kept doing things the way they wanted. Having a local school board attorney who is willing to stand up to DPI and assert the local school board's position is something every school board should do because the law is often not as clear cut as DPI would like.
Commented: Friday, December 1st, 2023 @ 9:23 pm By: Steven P. Rader
DEI, like CRT is the radical left's gambit to divide our society for their own political reasons. What we need to do is unite society based on Dr. Martin Luther King's philosophy that "a person should be judged by the content of their character, not the color of their skin." Modern day racism is the racism of the left attempting to divide society.
Commented: Friday, December 1st, 2023 @ 6:44 pm By: John Steed
Big Bob: CRT or DEI is not about about race, it is about stupidity, and, ultimately, just how far the Non Patriot Left thinks they than thrust this special brand of contrived ignorance down the throats of real Americans.

I am sorry that you are mixed up in this bonecrushingly stupid initiative. I will be watching closely to make sure our local public schools, funded by tens of millions of local tax dollars, is not.
Commented: Friday, December 1st, 2023 @ 4:39 pm By: Stan Deatherage
Just because I speak of different races and cultures doesn't mean its all I think about. I like to provide a little balance from the very white perspectives found here. That's why DEI is important. You guys talk all white, all the time and apparently don't realize it. When you don't even know you are doing it, that's pretty white.

Is white bad? No!
Neither is everybody else.
Commented: Friday, December 1st, 2023 @ 4:17 pm By: Big Bob
You are right Bubba, we just haven't been successful. Yet.
Commented: Friday, December 1st, 2023 @ 4:18 pm By: Big Bob
Speaking of Attorneys, does everyone know that our City of Washington Attorney was reprimanded by the NCBAR?
www.ncbar.gov\Holscher,%20Franz%20Rep%2019G0115.pdf&keyword=

What is the school boards attorney's name? One can never be surprised about who may be found listed there for disciplinary action.
Commented: Friday, December 1st, 2023 @ 2:06 pm By: Washingtonian
For years there has been an effort to get race and racism OUT of the schools. It is mind boggling that some want to bring it back in with Critical Race Theory. Those in Beaufort County trying to ban CRT are to be commended. It seems the superintendant is playing games on this, but how does the lawyer have anything to do with it? Isn't whatever the law is, the law?
Commented: Friday, December 1st, 2023 @ 12:12 pm By: Bubba
For the perspective of a black woman on Critical Race Theory, see the video from Kemi Badenoch in the article above. She calls it "a dangerous trend in race relations that has come far too close to my life." People of all race, other than the extreme left, realize that this divisive Marxist dogma of Critical Race Theory is bad for society.
Commented: Friday, December 1st, 2023 @ 10:48 am By: John Steed
Big Bob: Are you addicted to the idea of Race?
Commented: Friday, December 1st, 2023 @ 7:41 am By: Stan Deatherage
Thanks white guys! Appreciate the perspective.
Commented: Thursday, November 30th, 2023 @ 11:17 pm By: big bob
Speaking of Attorneys, does everyone know that our City of Washington Attorney was reprimanded by the NCBAR?
www.ncbar.gov\Holscher,%20Franz%20Rep%2019G0115.pdf&keyword=

What is the school boards attorney's name? One can never be surprised about who may be found listed there for disciplinary action.
Commented: Thursday, November 30th, 2023 @ 11:24 pm By: Washingtonian
A current school board member gave me some insight on how the current out of town school board attorney came to represent the school system. During the Covid era some issues arose between the last local attorney to serve as school board attorney and Superintendant Cheeseman, and also between that attorney and at least one board member. Ultimately, she resigned to take another position.

While in Perquimans County, Cheeseman had used the attorney who represents school boards in lawsuits over a million dollars to serve as the general local school board attorney as well. Each local school board pays into a trust run by the Department of Public Instruction (DPI) that handles such major lawsuits, and this attorney handles cases for that trust. Cheeseman suggested bringing him in as Beaufort County School Board attorney for routine legal matters, like he had done in Perquimans County rather than retaining another local attorney, and the school board agreed.

Using an attorney with such a close relationship with DPI is a two edged sword. On matters where there is a minor disagreement, his relationships may help positively resolve them for the local board. However, in more major disagreements that cannot be so easily settled, it puts such an attorney in a very awkward position caught between a relatively minor client, and another who is a gatekeeper of his bread and butter.
Commented: Thursday, November 30th, 2023 @ 9:22 pm By: Steven P. Rader
What DEI and CRT have in common is that they are designed to cause division in society, which the far left then intends to exploit. America does not need these divisive programs. We need to unite our country.
Commented: Thursday, November 30th, 2023 @ 4:42 pm By: John Steed
Tier one counties like ours, often attract Superintendents that need a stepping stone to another job. Cheeseman got a raise and contract renewal before the three new Board members were installed. So now he boasts that he cannot be fired because it would cost too much. If he keeps the DOE and the Teachers Union happy, he feels pretty secure. The Curriculum is not the responsibility of the Superintendent entirely. It is the responsibility of the School Board which is currently very weak and has not learned yet that Cheeseman is Hired Help. Leaving the subliminal message in their resolution that CRT can be justified is purely a smoke screen that our inept school board allowed while Cheeseman made sure to CHA. Teacher protection, Parental involvement, better discipline, and improved learning can be changed with some changes on your Beaufort County School Board.
Commented: Thursday, November 30th, 2023 @ 4:27 pm By: Buzz Cayton
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