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Woke may be the delusion of promise, but in the end, love wins. Every single time.Happy Easter
Commented: Sunday, March 31st, 2024 @ 9:20 am By: Big Bob
Seriously though, has anyone thought about the very possible scenario where a digital ID would be required to vote to ensure "fair and honest" elections?

If they get desperate enough, they could easily sway good people into making stupid decisions. Look at what they did with the "COVID vaccines".

I'm curious to know what the panel thinks about this. We need to cover all of our bases so no one can say that we didn't discuss this matter.
Commented: Saturday, March 30th, 2024 @ 8:26 pm By: John Valley
WOKE = delusional
Commented: Wednesday, March 27th, 2024 @ 10:53 am By: John Steed
LImited voting is, indeed, a rigged system, which is why federal appellate courts have ruled that judges cannot impose it as a "remedy" in a voting rights case unless all parties agree to it. We got stuck with this undemocratic system thanks to some self-seeking Democrat Party Commissioners who were defendants in a voting rights case they probably could have won if they had just fought it out. Instead, plaintiff David Moore proposed a district plan as a settlement, and that district plan put Democrat County Commission chairman Frank Bonner into a district he probably could not win, and the Democrat commissioners decided to offer an alternative settlement instead of fighting. They wanted an alternative that would save Frank Bonnner politically. The liberal surrender monkey Chapel Hill lawyer they hired is who suggested limited voting, and it was our own all-Democrat county commission who sent us down this rabbit hole. They cared nothing about the voters of the county, as the whole game plan was for the purpose of saving Frank Bonner's political hide. When word got out on what they were up to, citizen outrage was so extensive, the commissioners tried to withdraw their limited voting proposal, but the court ruled they had already made a binding settlement and could not back out of it.

David Moore showed me his district plan, and it would have worked fine for the county and for Republicans. We have limited voting instead because of self serving Democrat commissioners trying to save Frank Bonner.
Commented: Wednesday, March 27th, 2024 @ 10:25 am By: Steven P. Rader
MAGA- delusional
Commented: Wednesday, March 27th, 2024 @ 10:21 am By: Big Bob
As an aside - Doesn't it seem like the far-left troll on this site has no idea what the discussion is about most of the time?
Commented: Wednesday, March 27th, 2024 @ 8:39 am By: Van Zant
The system isn't rigged. Far right conservatives dont have the votes. Why? Because most people are not far right, or far left.
Commented: Wednesday, March 27th, 2024 @ 12:57 am By: Big Bob
As we all know, Election Reform is needed BUT are those pushing for "Election Reform" actually pushing for what they claim or are they pushing for something else of which the general public knows nothing about....yet?

Since 2020-21, several earlier advocates of "Election Reform" have become very skeptical of the alleged push to reform an already rigged system....through voting in "fair and honest elections". That, to me, is an oxymoron.

To make this as short as possible, don't be surprised if upcoming "Election Reform" measures will require you to accept and use a digital "Blockchain-encrypted" ID to "vote" in a "fair and honest" election.

The same technology, Blockchain, that would control our election systems would control the digital banking systems across the plane. I wonder what clowns like Kidwell would say about this?

After all, he (Kidwell) DID say that the ballots in the 2020 election were marked.

With what, I wonder😎?
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 11:53 pm By: John Valley
Van Zant: In decades past, all the real Republicans in Beaufort County had was the tiny Republican party guarding our backs, as we fought off the Liberal majority, who made "bipartisan" just another pejorative for "DO IT OUR WAY SUCKERS!"

Now, the Beaufort County GOP is infiltrated by RINOs, who rose to the top of their pathetic ladder leading to the celebration of a coalition with ardent Leftists to share power, and for what?

To stupidly spend tens of millions of the public's money into the waste of an illogical "progress" that could be defined only in terms of, 'we care so much more.'
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 11:25 pm By: Stan Deatherage
Stan: You have presented the crux of it: These fools do presume to tell the real Republicans how to elect commissioners. In fact, they presume to impose upon us all their salvation from limited voting in the form of their alternative which will be just as bad and is likely to give THEM even more control of the process. With this kind of thinking the average citizen is likely to be just as powerless, but his local masters will likely be MORE powerful. Yes, a real recipe for disaster.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 11:06 pm By: Van Zant
Van Zant: The Beaufort County GOP is a total wash-out; however, they do work well for the RINO class, which was no where to be to found when the local party was built, because, at that time, they were then Democrats supporting Democrats - many of whom still are, just wearing the faux Republican cloak as an appropriated luxury of their image of grand fakery.

When the real Republicans built the local GOP from nearly nothing in decades past:

Almost three decades ago, the real Republicans worked diligently to initiate the filming of the commissioners' meetings as a real public service, which, in the stark truth of reality, revealed the true nature of how sorry some commissioners performed, including the emerging RINO class. Eventually the chief RINO, Frankie Waters, of this local faux and current GOP did what any good Democrat-who-switched-to-Republican-to-run-for-public-office-who-then-governed-as-a-Liberal-Democrat would do, "Fake Frankie" tried to kill the videography of the Beaufort County Commissioners' meetings ... transparency be damned.

With Stan Deatherage, ME, rejoining Commissioner Hood Richardson back on the board of commissioners, and bolstering the efforts to wrest this shard from the complete power paradigm of RINO Frankie, the all encompassing RINO was unsuccessful in his efforts in the complete destruction of this perfect transparency in Beaufort County's process of the People's government - the continued proper filming of Beaufort County's self-governing process.

Consequently, unbridled insanity is to allow these RINO fools the power to force feed the real Republicans of Beaufort County, those who are far more knowledgeable on so many levels, as to how to elect county commissioners here in OUR long standing home of Beaufort County ... NO!

Not as long as I draw good breath.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 8:52 pm By: Stan Deatherage
There is nothing good coming from the petition being passed around by that clique that runs the Beaufort County Republican Party.

There is no organized party in Beaufort County looking out for John Q. Public in this voting system debate or anything else. They are all working for their own individual self-interests. That is just one of the reasons why I choose not to involve myself with the Beaufort County Republican Party. There are plenty of other reasons too: They hate conservatives. I'm conservative. They hate native southerners. I'm native southern. A small sample example. Screw them, too. That is that with local Repubs. The Democrats abandoned John Q. Public long ago.

I do not support any voting system that does not respect individual citizens. I imagine it would take the business end of a gun barrel to get these crooks to arrive at a point advantageous to the citizens in general. In the meantime, I'm not holding my breath waiting for something good from that crowd.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 8:05 pm By: Van Zant
As for the process I do believe that if the referendum was to pass and there wanted to be a change to it to create two-year terms, the process would be to get the 5,000 signatures for new referendum to change it to two yearterms and then have that referendum pass. I think the only other way around that is a state statute but I'm pretty sure that's how it works.

Stan, you may be able to comment on that but I'm pretty sure that's the correct process.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 4:05 pm By: Gary Ceres
I'd also wager any amount of money that you've never personally met me. That's pretty much how it goes for 90% of the people who post negative things about me so I'm used to it and it comes with the territory of speaking your mind and not being afraid to cower to the left or the far right.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 3:54 pm By: Gary Ceres
Well citizen X when you have any proof of anything I've ever said that's hate filled I'd be happy to hear it. If you consider calling corrupt officials out as hate failed then guilty as charged. When you have poor folks in the city of Washington that can't even get vouchers but you have a Housing Authority run by the mayor's wife that take trips every year for hundreds of dollars a night rooms at hotels for so-called affordable housing while kicking people out of their homes days before Christmas hate-filled then guilty as charged. For all the talk of how horrible a person I was as a candidate I actually got more votes as a city council member running as a republican than the history of Washington but due to the very high turnout I did not cross the finish line though got very close 60 votes short. Stan and I agree on almost everything when it comes to political issues. Our only difference is on Hood who I consider a hate monger and an embarrassment to the party. We are certainly entitled to your views though I certainly can tell by your post that you do not have any of the interests of the Republican Party or moderate Democrats and unaffiliate voters in mind so I think I'll pass on your advice. I'll choose to continue to promote business growth in Beaufort County a better quality of life cleaner environment and lower taxes. I'm also not going to back down from bullies and those that think that they are entitled to government action or to privileges as part of the martini sipping crowd.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 3:52 pm By: Gary Ceres
Citizen X: Not to worry; as two very different people, The Hood and I will always be solid out of a mutual respect factor, and that foxhole factor of familiarity that goes beyond everything stereotypical; passes all manner of understanding for many folks.

I sometimes like to joke about how The Hood and I followed the Grateful Dead for some years, like a couple of swirling hippies with stars projecting from our eyes.

The truth of the matter is that I never followed the Grateful Dead.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 3:45 pm By: Stan Deatherage
I rest my case.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 3:15 pm By: Big Bob
Gary Ceres who never hesitates to spread his warped & hate filled vendetta on public platforms, reminds me of the high school mean girls who make fun & games, while using their "Stinking Thinking" to bring strife and division to the vulnerable public, & in particularly Stan Deatherage, whom they think is so weak, that their words can turn Stan against his friend, & fellow conservative, Hood Richardson.

WHY th local GOP party, hav appointed Ceres 2 be their appointed liaison & representative, to assist 2024 candidates, is a mystery to me. Surely, they can see that he does not have an honest and fair-minded personality to do that job properly. His actions reflect poorly on the local party. He should resign or be fired.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 2:58 pm By: Citizen X
Big Bob: I don't dream about this kind thing. This is nothing to me. You just write a bunch of stupid stuff that only idiots would give credence to, so I just point to the obvious.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 2:50 pm By: Stan Deatherage
In your dreams buddy!
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 2:46 pm By: Big Bob
Gary Ceres: Influence others for that at large plan, proposed by Hood, to elect the chairman and vice chairman.

This election plan would kill the Center-Left Coalition, a coalition that is absolutely forbade in the Republican Platform at every level of GOP organization: county, state and national committee.

That is just the real of it.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 2:34 pm By: Stan Deatherage
The very worst system is the one we have now, called limited voting. It is the same concept that the Red Chinese proposed in their negotiations with the British for the Hong Kong election system after the handover, and the British rejected as totally undemocratic. It is also a system that the appellate courts in the US have ruled cannot be imposed by a judge as a remedy in a Voting Rights case, unless all parties agree to it.

A true at-large plan with voters have full voting rights for all seats would need all the seats to run at the same time to pass muster with voting rights challenges. That is how the old Washington City School board was set up, during the period it had to get DOJ preclearance, and it passed with flying colors.

It is also true that four year staggered terms is absolutely the very worst thing you could have in terms of accountability and responsiveness of elected officials, because it always has about half the board with an intervening election before their seat comes up again. That means voters are likely to forget anything they do in the first two years of their term when they come up for election again.

There are plusses and minuses to both a district plan and a true at-large plan, but either is light years better than what we have now.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 1:54 pm By: Steven P. Rader
Big Bob: Just know this, if it is just you and me in that room you proposed, I will always be the "'smartest' person in the room;" and, by your words here - data stored and Searchable - this is not even a contestable point.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 1:38 pm By: Stan Deatherage
Stan I think your plan would be worth consideration if we do wind up passing the district referendum for having a chairman and vice chairman elected at Large.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 1:36 pm By: Gary Ceres
Not a bad plan Stan. Preferable to the current system. I prefer the district sysstrm but could see this as a viable plan as well.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 1:35 pm By: Gary Ceres
Hoodie is just mean.
I worry about Stan. I never trust the ‘smartest’ person in the room. It’s just a red flag.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 1:32 pm By: Big Bob
John Steed: The only other plan I will endorse to elect commissioners is one that Steve Rader proposed to me which makes sense on every level:

It is simply this: Commissioners run every 2 years, with the electorate having 7 votes each two years, with a total of each citizen having the right to vote 14 times over a four year period, or less if there is a strategic plan afoot to elect Conservatives or RINOs or Democratic Socialists.

I could handle that since I am in the media /journalism /education business as well as many others.

Since I am in the business of knowing stuff, I will never support districts unless those district can be tempered by electing the Chairman and Vice Chairman at large.

We have enough corruption in Beaufort County. Commissioners running myopically in a district would only become a breeding ground to foment more, and compound the existing problem at some great lengths.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 1:29 pm By: Stan Deatherage
Furthermore the difference between you and Mr deathridge is that Stan is it good man who knows how to form a logical argument with those that opposing without trying to attack them on a personal level or destroy them. Perhaps you should learn from Stan about how to properly conduct yourself as a person. I can't believe you call yourself a Christian and do what you do. Shame on you.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 1:00 pm By: Gary Ceres
I agree with you John Sneed I do prefer to have two year terms rather than the four years I think that that is probably the best.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 12:57 pm By: Gary Ceres
With all due respect Mr Hood have you no shame. Do you have to go after every single person that has a different view than you. This is why you do not deserve to be reelected and it's not even because I disagree with you I'm political issues we probably agree on 90% of them it's cuz you're nasty and you go after people on a personal level. I've never taken a dime from anyone I work my ass off as a working class person and a blue collar job so how dare you. You're disgrace to the party.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 12:49 pm By: Gary Ceres
Gary Ceres is sucking up to the clique. Are they shoving a few bucks his way?
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 12:09 pm By: Hood Richardson
Two year terms make county commissioners more accountable and responsive. Whether by district or at-large, two year terms will make these politicians more likely to have to actually listen to voters.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 12:00 pm By: John Steed
I do agree that there is some validation to having Commissioners elected on every two year basis. I think that is a good point. However I think it's a horrible idea to have Commissioners elected countywide instead of by districts. Here's why.

When it's County Wide you could have three or four Republicans and maybe one Democrat or vice versa on the ballot since you only get one vote for a commissioner you're actually dividing the vote for your party there by limiting just how many members of your party can be elected even if the majority vast majority of the voters want a particular party's candidates to be elected. So instead of electing say eight Republican commissioners based on districts we might only elect seven or six because one Republican is taking the votes away from another Republican because you only get one vote thereby dividing the conservative vote. The same would be true for the other side. And then I deal world I would favor the district map with two year terms staggered. But we don't live in an Ideal World unfortunately so I believe that the petition is the best option that we have right now to rectify a situation in which voters votes are diluted we're only getting one vote for commissioner when there may be several different commissioners that would otherwise be elected by District.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 11:44 am By: Gary Ceres
Countrygirl1411: I agree. More and often voting by constituents mean more representation, not less.
Commented: Tuesday, March 26th, 2024 @ 10:17 am By: Stan Deatherage
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