Eagle Flights insertion and extraction - Vietnam | Eastern North Carolina Now

     

   Just by coincidence, the above picture is from the September, 2016 25th Division calendar that I get every year as a lifetime member and supporter of the Division. I did not notice it until, I was updating my appointments on the calendar for next month.

   An average day in the life of a grunt in the II Corp area Northwest of Saigon in 1968 consisted of Eagle Flights.  We would form groups of six  in two columns.  The Huey helicopters would come in to pick us up. Usually three men from each side would upload on the Hueys.  They would then fly us to the designated LZ (Landing Zone).  Normally the LZ was a clearing or rice paddy.  The eagle flights would consist of anywhere from 10-15 helicopters per lift. 

A young Bobby Tony waiting for his turn to board the Hueys on outbound Eagle Flight.

    They would fly in to the LZ and drop us off.  We would unload while the copters were still in the air hovering.  Immediately as they left for the next lift, we would establish a perimeter and fan out to form a protective LZ for the next lift.  The major danger was flying into a hot LZ.  That is when the enemy is waiting in the tree line or in bunkers and opens fire as the helicopters come in.  Because of the noise involved with the incoming helicopters, it was difficult to tell if the LZ was hot.  Normally the first lift would come in with the outside flank M60 firing suppressing fire into the tree line.  If the LZ were hot, the first indication noticed would be the taking of casualties. 

    Many people including myself often asked airborne troopers why they would jump from a perfectly good airplane.  The answer of course is you make a hell of a lot smaller target than an airplane.  The same holds true of a Huey.

This is a typical approach for an Eagle flight (photo by ©Bobbytony)

   Please excuse the quality of this slide. It is 48 years old and suffers from improper storage and lack of focus time by me.

    As soon as the final lift arrives, we formed into units and began the maneuvers out of the LZ (Landing Zone). Sometimes that would be a Cloverleaf maneuver which is designed to secure large areas of ground for the construction of a FSB ( Fire Support Base) for artillery.  Other time we would just do a S&D (Search and Destroy) on a pre-planned route.  The purpose was to prevent the enemy from establishing permanent base camps.  Often we would return to the same area multiple times.  I think the military philosophy was it took less personnel to search than it did to establish a base.  It is worthy of note that there were no front lines in Vietnam.  There were secured Base Camps and then Fire Support bases.  The infantry was tasked to keep the rest of the country side clear of large enemy encampments.  

This procedure could be repeated several times during the day if the area to be searched was large enough for multiple insertions and extractions. Other times, we would set up camp for the night and then move out the next morning to the adjacent area.

    Alex Ortolano, a contributor here on BCN, was there long before I arrived in 1968. He was a pilot for the Medical Evacuation section. He and his comrades were the most appreciated then and now as they came in to pick  up the wounded.  The survival rate of wounded in Vietnam was increased drastically from other wars due to quick extraction of wounded to the hospitals in base camps. One of the most haunting memories I have is of putting guys on the Medvac and then hearing later that they did not make it.  Usually the word would come back the next day if they were in your platoon, but sometimes we would not know until we returned to base camp.  It was not a subject that we dwelt on unless he was a buddy.  Here is his profile on BCN - Alex Profile..


    The extraction from the LZ was just a reverse of the insertion with the exception being that he last lift was the most dangerous.  Once during an extraction, the Huey I was to board was overloaded with too many grunts and two of us had to unload and wait for another Huey to come around to pick us up.  That was a very long few "hours" while Bassett and I waited alone in the LZ for the slowest Huey to arrive from San Francisco (I could be exaggerating the seconds into hours and the distance of a few hundred yards but it seemed like hours and many miles.)

Here a typical pick up for Eagle flight when there may be enemy present in the area. (image unknow site)

    Eventually, the extraction would become routine. It would be like waiting for the bus to come pick you up and return to base camp or a FSB.  That is when you had a few moments to reflect on the days work, dream about home, and perhaps look forward to a cold beer at your destination if the resupply chopper arrived before dark.

That is the back of my head looking at the Huey that I hope will come back to pick me and the last group up.©Bobbytony

   Perhaps the best description of this experience was relayed by the journalist Joe Galloway who was an on the     ground journalist during the battle at Ia Drang Valley, which he later coauthored a book with Col. Hal Moore. (We were Soldiers Once, And Young).  It was later made into a movie starring Mel Gibson.  For my money, that is the best and most realistic Vietnam War movie without the baggage of too much political ideology.

    Here is a video narrated by Joe Galloway at one of the speeches he made where he pays tribute to the pilots of those 'WOP WOP Birds'.  Like Joe, I can't watch or listen to this without harsh memories but also sometime sweet memories of God's Own Lunatics coming to pick us up. They were truly brave men. How would you like to strap a target on your chest and blast your presence by a loud speaker, basically saying here I am and here is where I am going? 

God's Own Lunatics

August 25 , 2016


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( October 16th, 2016 @ 2:29 pm )
 
Yep. It is hard to preach wisdom so that it can be properly absorbed.
( October 16th, 2016 @ 1:53 pm )
 
I guess most liberals do not understand the the entire submerged nuclear submarines are populated with enlisted dummies who maintain and drill for deploying of those weapons.

I think I remember a saying about it taking a college degree to fly fighter jets but only a high school equivalency to maintain and repair them.

My best line was from Jaws when Quint and Hooper got into the argument. Hooper aske what does that prove. Quint replies,~~ "It proves that you wealthy college boys don't have enough education to admit when your are wrong."~~

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( October 16th, 2016 @ 1:44 pm )
 
On the intelligence of military personal, I have heard Liberals ardently advocate that the military, as far as training goes, serves as a catch basin for those who are not bright enough, or wealthy enough to subscribe to post high school education.

I won't even waste my time to shoot down this flawed logic, on every level of its condescending nativity, except to offer, most Liberals do not understand the nature of patriotism.

That it is why mostly Liberals, who are educated, and, or do the educating, may suffer the 10% loss of real intellect, in real terms, between them and those comparable patriots, who have the same range of original intellect.

On actors, creators of content, I ignore their personal foibles just as long ss I can stand it, and I am a fairly accepting individual, but not totally blind here.
( October 16th, 2016 @ 11:57 am )
 
Sorry for the delay in response.
In my opinion that movie comes closest to the very emotional and reality of that conflict. I agree that Mel is a fine movie maker and that is why I always try to separate the entertainer from the person on both sides of the political spectrum. His latest movie Hacksaw Ridge is on my radar when it reaches the cable forum.

The current generation are better educated and rank higher on the military evaluation system than any generation we have ever had. That may be the result of a tightening of entry requirements as well as the lack of a huge standing army for the current conflicts. I do not think I would take your wager because I tend to agree.

One thing I will say for the military evaluation system is that it is very effective in matching skills to MOS (Military Occupational Skill) of its recruits. That of course was not so true in the 1960's when demands for infantry were at such a high level. Every one of my basic training unit was assigned to infantry with the exception of one guy who had passed the bar exam. Many were college graduates and some were actually teachers drafted.

We used to joke that the way the Army determined your MOS back then was simple. Everybody jump up. Those who landed were sent to the infantry, those who took off were sent to helicopter school at Fort Rucker, Alabama
( October 14th, 2016 @ 11:24 am )
 
I may have showed up. My father, who served in the Pacific Theater, and saw action at Saipan and Okinawa, said I would have ... repeatedly, which is a far cry from what Mel Gibson's father said and did - moved the who family from New York state to Austrailia. Mel is a bit over a year younger than me, but no one knew how long that crazy war was going to last.

Speaking of which, I consider "We Were Soldiers" a classic War Film. They may deride Mel Gibson for talking out of his head when he was drunk, but he makes a fine movie, and really grew into an outstanding actor. If I was Lt. Colonel Hal Moore, I would have been honored to have Mel Gibson portray me the he did the future general.

Right now, the men and women that serve don't even seem that they have anything in common with their Millennial Generation.

I will make this estimate, and estimating is something that I have a knack for, so hear me out: If you took the aggregate of any intelligent quotient range of U.S. children straight out of high school, within a 10 point range, where an arbitrary half would qualify for college, and the other half would enlist into the military, and then check on each aggregate subset 6 years later; in aggregate, regardless of how well they performed, the subset that enlisted would have an IQ range of 10 points higher than their subset counterparts in that original 10 point range that attended college. Think about it.

They may not only be our bravest, I will will wager, in a comparative sense, they are out brightest, with yet another character feature - integrity.
( October 14th, 2016 @ 9:06 am )
 
Thanks, but I suspect that you and most of the rest of those called would show up, saddle up, and do their duty. The proof is in the numbers of those who did. The proof is there today among those who have done the same without the threat of a draft.

I did nothing more than most children of the 1950s did. I was not an eager participant but having been raised on honor and duty as part of the landscape of being an American, I saw no other option.

It is my hope that we still have a majority of youths with the same sense of citizenship and whenever I am in doubt or a bit discouraged, I look to those currently serving and I have a renewed faith in our future.

Maturity does not come with youth but with age and I feel confident that many of the current malcontents will one day wake up and realize that this country is still our best hope for individual freedom which is what almost all rebellious youth really want. Just the chance to make our own mistakes and perhaps flaunt the rules a bit. Churchill may have been right.
( October 14th, 2016 @ 4:20 am )
 
Outstanding post Bobby Tony; The way you presented this cathartic piece, I felt like I was there, but I could never have been there.

I was safe at home in eastern North Carolina, trying to grow up, while you boys became real men, all heroes to me.

I thank you, and I thank Contributor Alex for your respective service.



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