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Comments for Misguided Environmentalism Blamed For Canadian Wildfires Engulfing U.S. In Dangerous Smoky Haze

Smoke from the massive Canadian wildfires rampaging through its provinces and territories has engulfed the East Coast of the United States, and environmentalists who have opposed sound forest management are being blamed by many for it.

If you dont know what a forest manager is, just say so.
Commented: Tuesday, June 13th, 2023 @ 9:03 pm By: Big Bob
I agree CT on all you said, but deforestation is not forest management.

Deforestation is another issue that has a whole other set of regulations, which, in the United States, is quite extensive.

Once the forest is planned to be gone forestry management ends, and a massive permitting process begins.
Commented: Tuesday, June 13th, 2023 @ 4:05 pm By: Stan Deatherage
Deforestation is a huge problem that the "Green Energy" morons are causing, and even leftwing film maker Michael Moore has figured that one out with his documentary "Planet of the Humans". One of the big things that deforestation causes is flooding. Deforestation to build wind and solar farms caused catastrophic flooding in northern Germany last year, but the greenies were in denial and falsely blamed it on "climate change" when it was actually their climate alarmism that caused it.

As to wild fires, the problem is not doing controlled burns to eliminate the underbrush that causes fires to spread so rapidly before it gets out of hand. That is what is not being done these days and that is the big problem with causing wild fires to be more extensive. And, yes, Stan, it is bad forest management that causes that problem.
Commented: Tuesday, June 13th, 2023 @ 3:42 pm By: Concerned Taxpayer
Big Bob: You really are a Leftist.

So you believe that Forest Managers are government bureaucrats, ergo, I was completely right with my first sentence on this thread. Like I said, "none of this is rocket science."
Commented: Tuesday, June 13th, 2023 @ 3:07 pm By: Stan Deatherage
Land owners put there own interests first. Putting your own interests first isn't managing anything, except your bank account.
Commented: Tuesday, June 13th, 2023 @ 2:48 pm By: Big Bob
Land owners are forest managers. You did not know that?
Commented: Tuesday, June 13th, 2023 @ 2:44 pm By: Stan Deatherage
Not land owners Stan, forest managers.
Commented: Tuesday, June 13th, 2023 @ 9:13 am By: Big Bob
Forest managers are anybody that owns over 20 acres of woodland.

Why is everything so institutionalized for you Leftists?

Big Bob: Do you own 20 acres or more of woodland forest?
Commented: Monday, June 12th, 2023 @ 8:54 pm By: Stan Deatherage
I call BS Stan, Bet you can't get an actual "forest manager" to post a piece in the BO regarding how "simple" his/her job is, Id be shocked.
Commented: Monday, June 12th, 2023 @ 6:51 pm By: Big Bob
Some of the worst destroyers of forests in today's world are the green energy grifters. They do this multiple ways. They clear cut old growth forests in Canada and the US, including North Carolina to make wood pellets to fire "biomass" electric plants in Europe. These are often retired coal plants, and burning wood pellets generates more CO2 than burning coal for the same amount of electricity produced, but they call it "green energy" because it is "renewable". We have some "biomass" electric plants in the US, but most are in Europe. It is just American and Canadian trees that are firing those plants in Europe.

Then there is the clear cutting of forests to actually build the "solar farms" and "wind farms". To look at just one example here. A request under the UK's equivalent of the Freedom of Information Act to Foresty Scotland produced not only documents but an official calculaton by that government agency of how many trees had been cut down in Scotland for wind farms on public land. This did not include pribate land deforestation or any of the solar farms. They calculated that 13.1 million trees had been cut down just of public land to build wind farms in Scotland. Wind and solar are very land intensive and forest loss to build these facilities worldwide is huge.

Then there is the blades for the wind turbines. The core of these is balsa wood which is light and strong, which is covered with resins. The source of the balsa wood is the Amazon rain forests, called "the lungs of the planet" which is being clear cut for balsa wood to make wind turbine blades.

It is rare that a new wind or solar farm is built in Germany without local environmentalists suing to stop it, arguing that it will lead to deforestation, loss of wildlife habitat, slaughter of birds and bats, and other environmental harm. Many of those lawsuits are succesful in stopping wind and solar farms. Last year, the German courts, for example, ruled with local enviornmentalists to prohibt a wind energy company from clear cutting the ancient forest that was the setting for the Grimm Fairy Tales.

Wind energy companies are also bad about water pollution. A wind project in Scotland was fined 5 million euros for a massive fish kill that their water pollution was responsible for, and in Ontanio Canada, four wind energy companies have been indicted for multiple criminal felonies for polluting the ground water. As a result of their pollution, water in one district in Ontario was so toxic people were told not only not to drink it or cook with it but not to even bathe in it.
Commented: Monday, June 12th, 2023 @ 4:01 pm By: Concerned Taxpayer
Since I actually do know smart people that manage forests, all of these "smart" people will impart that it is not a complex issue.

It is kind of like serving as a county commissioner, it ain't "rocket science," but oddly it does appear to be so for most of the other tens of commissioners that I have served with.
Commented: Monday, June 12th, 2023 @ 3:50 pm By: Stan Deatherage
Simplicity does appeal, but I don't know anyone who would agree forest management is "simple". That's just politics.
Commented: Monday, June 12th, 2023 @ 1:19 pm By: Big Bob
That is where we are different: Most things in life are NOT complex, but it is for the muddle-brained that parses everything to benefit their nefarious end.

You and your Leftist kind not understanding forestry management is just an example of such.
Commented: Monday, June 12th, 2023 @ 10:13 am By: Stan Deatherage
Most things in life are complex and are better addressed with a thoughtful response.
Commented: Monday, June 12th, 2023 @ 9:58 am By: Big Bob
Big Bob: So you think forestry management is complex, or is that you scoring "political points" with Leftists?
Commented: Sunday, June 11th, 2023 @ 8:07 pm By: Stan Deatherage
it's more about you taking a complex issue to score political points. Both the timber companies and the environmental groups have made mistakes. Climate change just makes it all worse.
Commented: Sunday, June 11th, 2023 @ 6:49 pm By: Big Bob
Do not conflate the issue with the specter of Weyerhaeuser, they are only an example of forestry managers. This is about Leftists stopping the practice of Forestry Management, and the consequences of that failed policy of the Left.
Commented: Sunday, June 11th, 2023 @ 6:29 pm By: Stan Deatherage
It comes down to this question: Do you want any wild places on the planet? If the answer is yes, then you cant give all the trees to Weyerhaeuser. Its a complex issue and goes to the roots of who we are how we want to exist. Unfortunately there are few wild places left, certainly not in the Eastern US.
Commented: Sunday, June 11th, 2023 @ 6:14 pm By: Big Bob
Everyone that manages forest land knows that Leftists know about as much about managing forests as they do about managing our energy development ... little to nothing.

Even here in eastern NC, the land managed by the US Forest Serves catches fire and burns at a greater rate than Weyerhaeuser's land, and forest land owned by individuals that manage their forests.
Commented: Sunday, June 11th, 2023 @ 11:58 am By: Stan Deatherage
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