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It should have been well understood when German public health authorities told their politicians at the onset of the Covid crisis that 1) lockdowns do more harm than good, and 2) masks don't work, their politicians should have taken that advice and not imposed their Stasi-style Covid police state.
Commented: Saturday, March 30th, 2024 @ 5:39 pm By: John Steed
Public health is well understood.
Commented: Saturday, March 30th, 2024 @ 9:19 am By: Big Bob
The people with the real brains on virology and epidemiology correctly told us that following a herd immunity strategy was the best way to deal with Covid. They turned out to be right. Politicians and glory seekers went the totalitarian Chinese lockdown route,and they turned out to be wrong. This is just another one of those areas where Little Bobbie is pushing the Chinese viewpoint. It was the Red Chinese who came up with the lockdown strategy.
Commented: Saturday, March 30th, 2024 @ 8:24 am By: Concerned Taxpayer
Arm chair quarter backs are a dime a dozen. Be glad your alive.
Commented: Friday, March 29th, 2024 @ 9:03 pm By: Big Bob
Hindsight tells us that if we had followed the herd immunity strategy of the pre-Tedros WHO and of renowed Oxford University epidemiologist Dr. Suneta Gupta, instead of the lockdowns, we would have had better outcomes from Covid. But they told us that in the beginning and our politicians were too bull headed to follow it. Now we learn that German public health authorities also told their politicians that lockdowns were counterproductive and masks don't work, but the politiicans would not listen.

Sweden stayed normal, and did not have to wait for the questionable vaccines, and we could have as well. Indeed a domestic flight within Sweden was about the only place in the western world one could fly on an airplane without one of those ridiculous masks. So did South Dakota.
Commented: Friday, March 29th, 2024 @ 4:35 pm By: Concerned Taxpayer
Hind site tells us covid was not as bad as it could have been. After it killed the first million and we had vaccines, getting back to normal was possible.

When the next one hits, a mort rate 5- 10% or higher... you bet we will lock down.
Commented: Friday, March 29th, 2024 @ 2:41 pm By: Big Bob
There are only a few areas where the federal government can impose health mandates. The military was one. People entering the country was another, where Biden allowed illegal aliens to come in unvaccinated but those entering the country legally to show proof of vaccination. For most of us, we either lived in a free state like Florida or South Dakota or a Covid dictatorship like Michigan or New York. In some cases, counties told their state governments to get stuffed and refused to enforce state mandates. Many sheriffs in eastern NC, for example, did that.
Commented: Friday, March 29th, 2024 @ 1:58 pm By: Rino Hunter
Actually they do. We dont like to think about it but the Federal government has a lot of power. Ask any decentest of Japanese Americans interned in camps during WWII.
Commented: Friday, March 29th, 2024 @ 10:20 am By: Big Bob
In the United States, the national government had no authority to order lockdowns nationally, although Comrade Fauci recommended it. That was up to the states, and some governors like ours were lockdown nazis, even though many of our local sheriffs refused to enforce it. Other states like Florida and South Dakota refused to deprive their citizens of their liberties.
Commented: Thursday, March 28th, 2024 @ 9:11 pm By: Rino Hunter
Actually, the real science all along on dealing with a pandemic was based on herd immunity. DUring the time that the WHO was led by an actual doctor, that was their standing plan to deal with a pandemic. That changed when China muscled in Ethiopia's foreign minister Tedros, who had no medical training, to run WHO and his team switched to China's lockdown strategy.

The first western country to take a stand on which strategy to use for Covid was the UK. Initially, Boris Johnson's government was listening to the country's and Europe's leading epidemiologist, Dr. Suneta Gupta of Oxford University, who recommended a herd immunity strategy. Then a second tier epidemiologist, Dr. Neil Ferguson of University College London released a wildly overblown fatality estimate for Covid to the media and declared that it would be much worse unless a strict lockdown were ordered. While Dr. Gupta pointed out lots of false assumptions in Ferguson's estimates, the media damage was done and paniced Johnston's government to take the lockdown approach. Ferguson was nicknamed "Professor Lockdown" by the media, but ultimately had to resign his government advisory role in disgrace when the London media caught him violating his own lockdown to visit his married mistress.

The UK was the first western country to jump, and its position influenced both the US and much of Europe. The western world would have been a lot better off if Boris Johnson had stuck with the experienced epidemiologist, Dr. Suneta Gupta, instead of with the glory hunting second stringer Neil Ferguson.

Sweden by sticking with herd immunity proved that Gupta was right and Ferguson was wrong. They also proved that the original WHO strategy was right and the one implemented by China-backed Tedros at WHO was wrong.
Commented: Thursday, March 28th, 2024 @ 8:16 pm By: Conservative Voter
Actually in truth , Trump nuts did that. Until covid was better understood, we did the right thing. Easy to be an arm chair quarterback. Thank goodness trump pushed vax development. Maybe his finest moment.
Commented: Thursday, March 28th, 2024 @ 3:54 pm By: Big Bob
The problem is that the left has made public health political. For years, the WHO strategy in a pandemic was designed to follow the principles of herd immunity, NOT lockdowns and masks. Then campaigning by the Red Chinese installed the first non-physican to head WHO, and suddenly they switched to the totalitarian Chinese concept of lockdowns.

Public health authorities in Sweden stuck to their guns on using herd immunity instead of lockdowns, and had a much better result on fighting Covid than the countries that followed the Chinese strategy of the WHO. In the US, Florida junked the lockdown / mask approach early and had much better results than those who followed the Chinese strategy to the bitter end like Michigan.

As the linked article above shows, the German public health authorities also understeed and informed the politicians that lockdowns do more harm than good and that there was no evidence that masks work, but the politicians would not listen to them and proceeded with the Chinese totalitarian approach.

Places like Sweden and Florida did understand true pricinples of public health, unlike the Chinese puppets at WHO and those who followed them.
Commented: Thursday, March 28th, 2024 @ 11:56 am By: Conservative Voter
Public health. It’s well understood.
Commented: Thursday, March 28th, 2024 @ 9:20 am By: Big Bob
Well, apparently it was in Germany. When the public health authorities told the politicians that lockdowns did more medical harm than good and there was no valid basis for mask mandates, the politicians ordered them enforced anyway.

Sweden followed the herd immunity public health concept recommended by its public health authorities rather than lockdowns and mask mandates, and Sweden had better results in dealing with Covid than those who did the rigid lockdowns and mask mandates.
Commented: Wednesday, March 27th, 2024 @ 5:13 pm By: Conservative Voter
Infection control is not a matter of opinion.
Commented: Wednesday, March 27th, 2024 @ 4:35 pm By: Big Bob
So, Bolshevik Bob, you say public health is supposed to be done the way the German government did it by imposing draconian lockdowns and mask mandates when their public health authorities told them the healthwise, the lockdowns did more harm than good and masks were useless?

Prior to the Chinese takeover of the WHO, WHO policies for pandemics was to rely on herd immunity. Under China's guy Tedros, they changed that to China's totalitarian response of lockdowns. Idiot Fauci went along with that.
Commented: Wednesday, March 27th, 2024 @ 4:34 pm By: Conservative Voter
Because on planet earth, that's how public health is done. Nothing new. Because of vaccines, antibiotics and good hygiene we in the first world simply forgot what a pandemic is like and what you have to do.
Commented: Wednesday, March 27th, 2024 @ 1:25 pm By: Big Bob
It would stand to reason that Roy Cooper's health experts were privy to the same information as those in Germany, like the failures of lockdowns and other harm from them in other countries that the German health experts cited. So why did they jump of the Fauci bandwagon?
Commented: Wednesday, March 27th, 2024 @ 12:53 pm By: Rino Hunter
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