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More deflecting and "whataboutism". AGAIN, the issue is monuments for our military heroes.

Your obsession is with something not related that has been dead and buried for over half a century, although your nutty 150 year timeline below contends it ended just eight years ago. I did not have anything to do with that, but if you say you did you must think you are older than the oldest person in the Guiness Book of Records.

All you can do, Bolshevik Bob is to deflect because you have no legitimate arguments on the issue at hand.
Commented: Friday, May 12th, 2023 @ 10:14 am By: Conservative Voter
Jim Crow is not inherited guilt. We did that.
Commented: Friday, May 12th, 2023 @ 9:42 am By: Big Bob
The problem we have on the school board is that some spineless members, including some registered as Republicans, do not seem to comprehend that the superintendant is their employee, NOT their boss.
Commented: Friday, May 12th, 2023 @ 8:44 am By: Rino Hunter
The effort opposing the Hillsdale program originated from Cheesman an the liberal faction of thee school board. We are a free country. Anyone can request changes in legislation and new legislation. It is the woke activists (Cheesman and his activist buddies on the school board) who oppose this legislation.

Setting the record straight, Cheesman and the board have been offered the Hillsdale program for more than three years. His comments in the article published in the Washington Daily News are intended to mislead. Cheesman knows all about the Hillsdale studies. That is why liberals like him are opposed to it.
Commented: Friday, May 12th, 2023 @ 6:14 am By: Hood Richardson
With at least 6 million illegal invaders entering the county since Biden was sworn in, have to wonder in that time was the border actually closed.
Commented: Friday, May 12th, 2023 @ 7:04 am By: Countrygirl1411
inherited racial guilt is the nonsense spewed by CRT. A modern person is NOT a victim or an opporessor based on what happened 200 years ago. That nonsense was concocted by Marxists for the purpose of creating divisions in society that the far left could then exploit.
Commented: Friday, May 12th, 2023 @ 6:27 am By: Conservative Voter
Try as we might, We can absolve the sins of our fathers, by ignoring our own.
Commented: Thursday, May 11th, 2023 @ 11:40 pm By: Big Bob
Try as we might, We can absolve the sins of our fathers, by ignoring our own.
Commented: Thursday, May 11th, 2023 @ 11:42 pm By: Big Bob
As to BLM being Marxist, there was a video posted on this site 2 or 3 years ago, where one of the three co-founders of BLM boasted that she and another of the BLM co-founders were "trained Marxists". The third co-founder had lots of Marxist connections but apparently she was just an untrained Marxist. I take them at their word as to what they are, but apparently you want to whitewash it.

As to you, your support of attacks on history is identifal to Mao's Cultural Revolution, and you clearly support the Marxist CRT. Of course, there are other strains of totalitarianism that also support similar attacks on history like Muslim fanatics like ISIS and the Taliban and fascists.
Commented: Thursday, May 11th, 2023 @ 8:47 pm By: Conservative Voter
Not everyone who disagrees with you is a Marxist, but I get why you say that.
Commented: Thursday, May 11th, 2023 @ 6:13 pm By: Big Bob
THis is typical liberal disinformation. That "My Turn" colunn in the Washington Daily News is from the education correspondant of the far left NC Policy Watch, which now calls itself NC Newsline. It is part of a leftwing network called States Newsroom, whose murky funding is hidden. Even the liberal establishment "fact checker" NewsGuard has critized that organization for having an activst agenda but not disclosing who was paying for it.

What happened was that Kidwell and other legislators were working on a broader bill to authorize the Hillsdale curriculum, and the legislative research staff determined that there was already legislative authorization for local school boards to adopt it, so no new legislation was necessary.

The education establishment has over the years gone from garden variety liberal to progressive woke in its slant on history, pushed by radical teachers unions and education bureaucrats. That resulted in the highly controversial new social studies curriculum adopted by the NC Board of Education, dominated by leftwing appointees of Governor Cooper. The big education companies pander to the big liberal states in pushing curricula they provide farther and farther to the left. "Wokeness" has been injected into much of the education establishment's offerings, and that is why a poll last year showed that 71% of North Carolina parents were concerned about political indoctrination in the schools.

The key is finding a traditional history / social studies curriculum that is not full of the woke alphabet soup of CRT, DEI, and ESG. Hillsdale College produces one that is respected by those not on the extreme left, but there are others. Texas demanded that the big education companies modify their curricula to present more traditional history, so Texas approved options would seem to be one way to accomplish this. FLorida has also taken a hard line in approving only curricula that are not "woke", so looking at curricula approved in Florida would also be an option.

The bottom line is that our school board needs to exercise the statutory authority it already has to adopt a trandtional non-woke curriculum.
Commented: Thursday, May 11th, 2023 @ 5:41 pm By: Steven P. Rader
Bolshevik Bob is taking the same position on destroying historic monuments that was taken by ISIS, the Taliban, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao. He is a fellow traveller with all of those cancel culture tyrants.

Confederae mounuments were erected at the same interval after the war as the Union monuments, and inded a similar interval as World War I and World War II monuments. And who is it that has been making major attacks on monuments here? The Marxist BLM organization, that's who. BLM has been attacking historical monuments all over the world..
Commented: Thursday, May 11th, 2023 @ 3:46 pm By: Conservative Voter
Propaganda can hurt our whole society, and too much of that, of the "woke" variety is in our schools.
Commented: Thursday, May 11th, 2023 @ 3:34 pm By: John Steed
Thanks for the history lesson John.

The exploits of Robert E. Lee is of conventional legend.

The truth of who Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson was, at his core, is possibly a far more interesting story. If not for the accidental friendly fire felling of the inspiring and brilliant general at Chancellorsville, the War Between the States probably would have turned out far differently, and one can only wonder what this unified Republic would have become.
Commented: Thursday, May 11th, 2023 @ 2:58 pm By: Stan Deatherage
It is hard to imagine why Randy Walker went along with woke cancel culture against the south. Cancel culture is nothing but evil.
Commented: Thursday, May 11th, 2023 @ 12:41 pm By: Bubba
Just an observation. And accurate to boot.
Commented: Thursday, May 11th, 2023 @ 1:25 pm By: Big Bob
It’s about monuments erected during Jim Crow to celebrate a way of life that no longer exists and to terrorize certain segments of the population. Decorate your private property anyway you want, but Big Bob supports monument removal from the public square. I see it as another nail in Mr Crows coffin. A coffin that should have Ben buried long ago.
Commented: Thursday, May 11th, 2023 @ 1:31 pm By: Big Bob
The Biden regime imposing your Climate Scientology religious cult on our country is impairing the quality of life of the rest of us. Biden is making Climate Scientology a state religion.
Commented: Thursday, May 11th, 2023 @ 1:27 pm By: Concerned Taxpayer
As usual, Big Government Bob, you confuse the far left political narrative with the truth, when in fact, nothing could be farther from the truth.
Commented: Thursday, May 11th, 2023 @ 11:51 am By: John Steed
There is one other inconvenient fact for the postwar northern narrative about the war being fought over slavery. That has to do with the position of key generals on that issue. If the narrative were correct, one would expect the northern generals to be anti-slavery and the southern generals pro-slavery. Thus it does not fit that when Grant and Lee met at Appamattox, it was Grant, not Lee, who was the slave owner.

Grant and his wife Julia owned slaves which were in Kentucky, a state still in the Union and not under the Emancipation Proclamation and continued to own them until December 1865, months after the war ended, when the Grant family slaves were finally freed by the 13th Amendment. In 1861, Grant wrote a letter to a close friend in which he emphatically stated that the only reason for the war was preserving the union, and that if the politicians tried to make it about anything else like ending slavery, he might switch sides and fight for the south.

Robert E. Lee, on the other hand, freed the hundreds of slaves he inherited from his father in law as soon as that estate was settled. In 1859, Lee wrote that" slavery is an institution of moral and political evil".

And if you then look at the second best known generals, that pattern holds.

Sherman never had enough money to own slaves, but it is documented that when he was stationed at Fort Moultrie, Sherman rented a slave. Also when he was hired to run Louisians's state military academy, he wrote a letter to send for his wife who was with her parents at the time and advised her that she should buy a slave when she arrived. His wife's family had more money than Sherman himself.

On the other hand, Stonewall Jackson never owned slaves, and prior to the war, when he was an professor at VMI, he started and personnally conducted a program run through his church to teach blacks, both free and slave, to read and write. It was probably the first black literacy program ever conducted in the south. After he went into the Confederate army, Jackson sent part of every military paycheck home to keep that program running.

And Bobbie, don't try to deflect again with your "whataboutism" (a leftist term you should know well). This thread is about monuments to military heroes.
Commented: Thursday, May 11th, 2023 @ 9:50 am By: John Steed
Yada, yada, yada! You've made your prediction. No need to argue with me. Neither one of us has any control it. Just sit back and enjoy!
Commented: Thursday, May 11th, 2023 @ 8:54 am By: Big Bob
If I was the Devil I would be running from Keith Kidwell.
Commented: Thursday, May 11th, 2023 @ 8:59 am By: Browny Douglas
As I said JS, for the sake of argument let's assume you are 100% right about the civil war (you're not), please explain 150 years of Jim Crow. Mr. Crow rose from the ashes of that conflict and we both benefited from that system and used it to systematically disenfranchise the newly freed slaves. In some ways we still do. Mansplain it to us.
Commented: Thursday, May 11th, 2023 @ 9:02 am By: Big Bob
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