As most of you may know, I take education very seriously. It is directly linked to the absolute right (fundamental right) to the pursuit of happiness, including the right to develop one's talents and skills, and also to the absolute right of an individual to work and provide for oneself and one's family. Education is a competition; the entire process is a competition. A child competes, through grades, first for the opportunity to take honors or higher-level courses. And then a teen competes, through grades, for a class ranking which is critical for application for the better colleges and universities. And then the graduating high school student competes, through credentials, for a spot at the college or university of choice. The better the student has competed in education, better the school he or she can get into. The better the college the student graduates from, the better the job he or she will get (and hence, better salary). This is how life works; this is how it has always worked. It is fair because there is reason expectation involved and often those who achieve the most in education are the ones who worked the hardest, invested the most energy, or sacrificed the most. It is fair because it is absolutely color-blind and neutral to a whole host of factors. The system is, simply-put, a merit-based system.
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Stan Deatherage said:
( November 26th, 2017 @ 1:53 pm )
Alright that is it. I am repackaging this exchange in at least one or more posts.
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Bobby, I agree. You are right, and I thank you for clarifying and pointing out where I should have chosen my words more carefully.
Did you really grow up in an era of school segregation? I can't even imagine. I come from north Jersey and I believe my state integrated even before Brown v. Board of Education mandated it. I wanted to share something that I learned about 2 years ago. We all know about segregationists in our history - about the evil, pernicious designs of the Southern Democrats to keep the races separated, and even the Republicans up north who passed a series of "Black Laws" all designed to make the North unappealing and unwelcome to freed blacks. And now we know that Abraham Lincoln himself favored such Black Laws and publicly admitted that the races could never exist together and that "one race is superior and the other is inferior and I'm happy to be a member of the former" (something like that). He indeed ran on a platform to exclude blacks from the western territories, to further a party objective of having western expansion for whites only (excluding slavery from the western territories was not about trying to eliminate slavery as it was about excluding blacks). We have been taught that it was always whites that wanted segregation, and in probably 99% of cases that was true. But I remember a case in Virginia where schools were segregated based on geography only and NOT on any segregation law. There was pressure into integrating the schools, so the "white school" sent letters to the families of black students encouraging them to transfer to that school (although requiring a longer transportation time, etc). No one responded. They tried to force the integration but the black families were happy with the status quo; they had no issue. The school itself was not inferior and they were happy going to school with those who lived close to them. The government got involved and forced the integration. This began the era of "forced integration" and busing to achieve a social plan - to base schools on racial quotas. Around this same time, Mohammed Ali (before becoming the icon we revere him as) was trying to champion segregation, as a way to keep the black race pure. Even Martin Luther King Jr. referred to him as the "Champion of Segregation." I had never heard of this side of Mohammed Ali before. [reference: www.bostonglobe.com ] |
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Diane, you make great points and my only quibble would be the assumption "everyone understood that Asians and Indians are naturally smarter." I think it is more culturally based than ethnicity.
But one think is clear, if it takes a score of 100 to pass then everyone should be judged on the score assuming the test is the same for all. No handicap system is sufficient or needed when we realize that individuals have differing abilities and limitations. I depart from the path when we assign that trait to groups genetically. Affirmative Action is an abomination that is perhaps as bad as the Segregated schools of my youth. Both are based on a characteristic that we certain groups are inherently inferior to other groups based on their race or ethnic background. |
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I used to be the college counselor at an un-Catholic school in Greenville (John Paul II Catholic School. Catholic in name only; the worst people I've ever met; the worst culture of cheating I've ever seen). When the topic of college applications would come up, the white students would say to the black and Hispanic students that they were lucky because they get breaks to get into college. They would joke "We're the only ones that have to rely on our grades." Now, let's look at what that tells us about what our teens are taught (subtly) and what they likely understand. First, they KNOW for a fact that minorities are accepted into colleges with far less grades and credentials than whites. How do they know this? Because they know which of their fellow students have excellent grades and which do not. And then they see that students with lower grades and lower GPAs get into schools when they, with higher grades, do not. Second, they are informed by colleges that they have "a diverse student body" and that they "respect and foster diversity" on their campuses. So, they put two-and-two together and understand that one way they get their diverse student body is by lowering their standards for certain minorities. Thirdly, they must certainly be questioning WHY schools have to lower admissions standards for minorities.That's when they realize that they do so because if they didn't, minorities would not be able to compete equally, on a grade and GPA-basis (merit basis), with white applicants. Then they might also realize that since the school has an actual "policy" for minority applicants, it must be based on something data-driven. There must be enough data to show that minorities score lower on college entrance exams, and have lower GPAs, and hence they need a "handicap" in the admissions review process. Translation: Minorities are not as academically successful or do not perform as successfully as others. Stereotype established for today's teens. (By the way, in all my years in education, both as a student, with my children going thru the public education system, and as a teacher and counselor, everyone understood that Asians and Indians are naturally smarter and would have non problem getting into the colleges of their choice. My third daughter is a mini genius. She took all AP classes in high school and kept an extremely high GPA. I asked her if there was a chance she would graduate at the top of her class and she laughed at me. She said: "Are you kidding. I have Asians in my class." What she was saying is that even as well as she was doing, Asian students just do much better academically. (My daughter graduated 4th in her class, out of 370).
This same daughter was "wait-listed" at NC State when she applied. It blew my mind. As a high school student, she was the most intelligent kid I knew. She ran circles around most other students from her school. How could State not have accepted her outright? Yet a Hispanic student that I know (and taught) was accepted. The difference between my daughter and this other girl was a stark as night and day. On a spectrum of intelligence and ability, my daughter would be at one end (say, Ivy League material) while the other girl was community college material. It was THAT stark of a contrast. And not only in sheer ability either. My daughter is, and has always been, an avid learner, studying all the time and pushing herself. The other girl did everything she could to get out of class and to be responsible for less work (And John Paul II Catholic school administration was all-too-happy to comply). When my daughter found out that this girl was accepted to State, she said: "Mom, that's not fair." As it turns out, my daughter was ultimately accepted; as students who were accepted declined in order to go to other schools, a spot opened up for her. Within one year, my daughter did so outstandingly well that she was invited into the prestigious Mechanical Engineering school. She is one of only a few female students there who can do a certain kind of programming. She took additional courses over the summer (that's how driven she is) and now she is ahead of other students of her grade. Where is the fairness of Affirmative Action programs? Why should spots be given to some simply because of skin color while those who have greater skills and ability be pushed aside? Again, here is what really bothers me about the Affirmative Action policies at colleges and universities. Students and even adults see a black or Hispanic college student and even at least momentarily, they conclude that most likely, the only way they were accepted was because the school either added additional "handicap" points to their entrance exams or they had lower acceptance criteria for them. If I were a member of either minority group and I knew that college admissions policies had created that presumption, I would feel pretty low about myself. Even if a member of either minority group did have high grades and SAT/ACT scores, and many do, the first impression on others is that they did not. And it is NOT because of any racism or any mal-intentioned heart; it is because of what society and government has re-enforced on our youth. It is a stereotype that they learn by government policies. This really rubs me the wrong way. So then you have President Obama and Michele Obama and even Hillary Clinton who, for political reasons, tell Americans (including minorities who are often all-too-willing to hear how they continue to be "victims") that every white person is inherently racist, whether they know it or not.. that they are incapable of being color-blind. HOW DARE THEY SAY THAT. The government is racist, their policies are racist, and they are pushing silent or "soft" racism on all of us. And Democrats are the biggest racists of all - calling for policies that give minorities a leg up (by assuming they cannot compete equally or do for themselves what others are capable of). Affirmative Action is a Democratic policy. These policies are in so many areas of public life, it is astounding, including medical schools and law enforcement. There are cases upon cases where minority applicants to police forces win to have standards lowered so that they can be admitted. All they have to do is challenge a particular police force, for example, by saying that there aren't enough "Hispanics" hired. If there aren't enough Hispanics on the force, then it clearly must be that they have discriminatory hiring practices or discriminatory admissions policies to its police academies, they say. Then they look at those practices and policies, which are often designed to weed out unqualified candidates for ones who are qualified for the various tasks that officers must be responsible for. Then they will claim that the practices and policies themselves are inherently racist. So, what these departments end up doing, to either avoid further litigation or to comply with the Civil Rights Act, is to re-do their "exams" and practices and dumb them down tremendously. Often, the standard is this: If Hispanic applicants can't score well, then it MUST be that the tests are racist and mean to prevent Hispanics from doing well. Sadly, minorities use "racism" to dumb down standards so they can do better, so in a sense, while they accuse others of racism, they love to benefit from it and probably, in some way, need it to continue. Either way, society teaches us that lower standards are associated with minorities. |
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Part of the problem may be trying to think and type on this small keyboard at same time. It is more than this addled brain and arthritis fingers can manage.
Still in back seat enroute. |
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Bobby Tony, nothing you write is poorly worded - "You are my No. 1 Guy".
Racism is an industry for Liberals. When I see them in action, I know these pathetic humans for what they are. |
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Agree, poorly worded previous comment by me. No doubt racism was reinforced by government in the 50s and now reinforced in reverse the 00s.
I think my point was the seed is in the heart placed there by upbringing, but must be cultivated to bloom and no doubt media and government know how to spread the sh!t. Actually I don’t disagree with anything in post or comments. |
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