Bobby Tony has a Rare Moment of Uncertainty | Eastern North Carolina Now

Often Wrong, But Never in Doubt

    Occasionally, I may have a moment where I have not already made up my mind about a subject. Though rare, it usually provokes a search for additional facts, opinions and / or guidance. We are currently undergoing an evaluation of just how much we should be protected from post on Social Media. Both Twitter and Facebook have felt the need to limit access of a post or link that they deem as possibly non-factual.

   Due to a lack of education or perhaps a willful ignorance, we often hear about the ‘RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH!’  I may be wrong and am certainly open to corrections, but I thought the 1st Amendment only prevented the Government from interfering with expression of one’s opinion.  Without trying to delve into various rulings by the Supreme Court or certain legislation regarding free expression. (FIRE!!!!), I have long thought that the expression of opinions or even dare I say pseudo-facts is just part the normal give and take in any society, however private entities certainly have the right to limit what they put on their platform..

   So, when it comes to Social Media, I expect the content to be somewhat equivalent to the what I have called the “Cliff Clavin Rule.” Everybody has an opinion and everyone has their own version of the facts. When Daniel Patrick Moynihan said "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts," he probably had no idea how wrong he was.  I will grant that was before Social Media platforms like Facebook (2004) and Twitter (2008) began to dominate the interchange with the digital version of a Cheers type Bar.

 

COME ON BOBBY TONY WHAT IS YOUR POINT!

 

   Okay, here goes.  What is the practical difference between published media and social media?  By practical I am not talking about a legalistic definition where one is held accountable for what is published while the other is merely providing a platform for expression.

   I can’t really tell the difference any more. Broadcast, Cable and Podcast seem to contain the same amount of false, salacious and outright provocative news as the Social Media.  In regards to FACTS, I would dare anyone to be able to sort the truth from FACTS in both forums.  Please don’t tell me about Fact Checking and Snopes as the arbiter of truth.  For the most part FACTS are FACTS and do not have nuance or consensus.

   So here is my uncertainty:

 Are all the people trying to limit information on Social Media trying to protect me from hearing, reading or watching something that I should not hear, read or see, or are they trying to protect me from something they don’t want me to hear, read or see,?

   There was a time when Caveat emptor was the operative principle in both commerce as well as social discourse.

   It is a short form of Caveat emptor, quia ignorare non debuit quod jus alienum emit.

   "Let a purchaser beware, for he ought not to be ignorant of the nature of the property which he is buying from another party."

   I have been unable to find the actual source of Caveat emptor (plenty of explanations on what it means but no actual ‘who first said it’), but if it’s Latin  I suspect it has been around long before Facebook, Twitter or Cliff Clavin came on the scene. I also suspect that anyone who could speak Latin would be smart enough to tell BS from FACTS.


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( October 26th, 2020 @ 1:05 pm )
 
Many Including Jefferson (who is also my favorite President) felt that the Louisiana Purchase was unconstitutional without an amendment, but the deal was too good to pass up so he took a gamble. In essence he used the end justifies the means which I don't think is in the Constitution. However I would defer to Diane's more informed knowledge on the subject.

"Jefferson took a strict, literal view of constitutional powers, meaning that specific powers reserved for the President and Executive Branch needed to be spelled out in the Constitution. The ability to buy property from foreign governments was not among these powers listed the Constitution – a fact that his political opponents, the Federalists, were eager to point out to the President.

Instead, Jefferson considered a constitutional amendment the only way to conclude the deal with France. “The General Government has no powers but such as the Constitution gives it,” he wrote to John Dickinson in 1803. “It has not given it power of holding foreign territory, and still less of incorporating it into the Union. An amendment of the Constitution seems necessary for this.”

However, Jefferson had no intention of losing the deal with France. “In the meantime we must ratify and pay our money, as we have treated, for a thing beyond the Constitution, and rely on the nation to sanction an act done for its great good, without its previous authority,” he told Dickinson."


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( October 25th, 2020 @ 8:24 pm )
 
Yeah, a little bit. How about James Madison? He was one of key authors of the Constitution.

And Thomas Jefferson was indeed a man of constitutional principal; Jefferson is Diane's favorite Founding Father.
( October 25th, 2020 @ 12:56 pm )
 
With the possible exception of George Washington, all presidents after him look upon the constitution as nothing more than a temporary Road Work Ahead sign in the way to accomplish their goals.
Does that make me a cynic? I SUPPOSE SO.

( October 25th, 2020 @ 12:42 pm )
 
Even though Lincoln was the top Yankee of all time, and did demolish the Constitution for most of his presidency, he say some remarkably memorable stuff, with the Gettysburg Address a very rich poem of extreme purpose.
( October 25th, 2020 @ 9:36 am )
 
As old Abe Lincoln said: "There's a sucker born ever minute!"


Once Brainy Quotes does a Web crawl this quote will appear in their list of Brainy Quotes. I know that because there must have been someone who followed old Abe around and wrote everything he said knowing that sooner or later there would be a search engine that they could sell it to.

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( October 25th, 2020 @ 7:39 am )
 
I like that process of accountability.

Also, one could just change a few words or try hard to make it better, which almost never works, and then claim it as your own.

It must work, because Joe Biden often does not go to that much trouble, and he is running for president right now.
( October 20th, 2020 @ 11:09 am )
 
I usually try to credit Quotes to the author if I know who it is. Unless it is a particularly funny or profound quote, then I take credit or say that's what my father always said. You know, just keep it in the family.
( October 19th, 2020 @ 1:13 pm )
 
I enjoy you thoughts put to words. They always make me laugh.

When people quote Senator Moynihan's words often, but they rarely attribute that quote to him. The late Democrat Senator would probably never make it through a Democratic Socialist primary now, especially one held in New York.

Thanks for the submission B.T. It really is a "breath of fresh air". I really couldn't tell you whose words started that one.
( October 19th, 2020 @ 12:38 pm )
 
I admit that sometimes, I may be a bit too quick to form an opinion, but generally I give people leeway on what they think.


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( October 19th, 2020 @ 11:57 am )
 
"When Daniel Patrick Moynihan said "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts," he probably had no idea how wrong he was." - Classic Bobby Tony

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